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hurricane+bush=absolute stupidity...By Michael Moo

#1 {lang:macro__useroffline}   SlainThrax- {lang:icon}

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE(Michael Moore)
Friday, September 2nd, 2005

Dear Mr. Bush:

Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.

Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?

Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!

I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike?

And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job
for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!

On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.

There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.

No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!

You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 06:29 PM

Moore is an idiot....

Perhaps you're not aware of this, but before the hurricane even hit, Bush signed an executive order saying that as soon as the hurricane hit, National Guard troops and relief would be sent in. The problem was, in order to do this, the governor had to sign it, allowing the troops to be sent in. She didn't get around to it, and she couldn't okay it until 3 days later, due to the power grid going down. Bush had done his part before the storm even hit. The blame for this rests on Kathleen Babineaux Blanco and her cabinet, not the president.


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Posted 03 September 2005 - 07:27 PM

i don't see what all this bush bashing is about! i mean, we chose him, so we should at least not complain since it is our fault! anyway, he's still better than kerry! just look at it this way: at least he can't run again. so shut your mouths and deal with it.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE(Pendragon205 @ Sep 3 2005, 12:27 PM)
i don't see what all this bush bashing is about! i mean, we chose him, so we should at least not complain since it is our fault
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 07:45 PM

Moore knows, Ratz. Unfortunately, the greater portion of America doesn't know. So what does he do? He deceives the people that give him half an ear and says that it's the Bush Administration's fault.

Everybody looks for a scape goat. Hey! There's our leader, President Bush. After all, he can stop powerful hurricanes by pointing his finger! Can't he?

Moore was angry at Bush for not immediately going to Louisiana. So you want him to forget that there's another 49 states that have to be led?

Then he tries to drag race into this. Black power! Wait a minute, he's white, rich, and lives off the fat of America's (and the rest of the world's, for that matter) fear. Who's worse? The president who tries to do whatever he can for his people (maybe he screws up every once in a while, but he's human, folks)? Or the man who goes world-wide speaking conspiracy theories and using soothsayer tricks to make him seem like a man who knows what he's talking about?

It's aggravating to see him complaining. If he really wants to help out in any way, Moore should go volunteer and get his lazy, fat butt over to New Orleans. Pointing fingers can be done later, but now, there are people dying out there. There are rapes, murders, and other crimes being committed in what once was a great city. A whole host of things he can tell the world about later.

But if he truly wants to gain at least a grudging bit of respect from myself and many other Americans, he should shut his fat, rich, white mouth and do something!
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 09:44 PM

Have you seen the pictures of places like the convention centre in New Orleans? 99% of those people are black.

And the other day, Bush visited places that had been hit by the hurricane, but didn't go into New Orleans. I wonder why? Whatever_anim.gif

But whoever's fault it is that the aid didn't get there for a few days, it's not a good thing. The rest of the world is getting news pictures of it and getting told that aid hasn't arrived for days. What most people out of the US are thinking is that the US doesn't care about its own people.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE(Pendragon205 @ Sep 3 2005, 12:27 PM)
i don't see what all this bush bashing is about! i mean, we chose him, so we should at least not complain since it is our fault
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When voting for a President, are we voting for someone who we will just let do what he/she wants for four years? Regardless of a President's qualifications or ability, in a democracy isn't the government based around the people? Aren't the people entitled to an opinion and the ability to express it when they think something isn't right? I don't really see it as "Bush bashing"... Both parties are on the same side and some people forget that. Maybe each should listen to the other party and try to understand them, and maybe people should stop taking people's words for things and look into them for themselves. Maybe they should really take a look at the war, the economy, and everything else, and make their own opinion instead of just being a follower of a party or the media? I am directing that toward both Bush supporters as well as those who disagree with him.

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Moore was angry at Bush for not immediately going to Louisiana. So you want him to forget that there's another 49 states that have to be led?

The President isn't necessarily in a position to micromanage all the states. What is happening as a result of the hurricane is by far the most dire situation at this moment within the U.S.. People are dying and there is a massive public health crisis due to the flooding and everything else. Thousands of people have lost everything they had. It is a little sad how something couldn't have been done sooner.

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Pointing fingers can be done later, but now, there are people dying out there. There are rapes, murders, and other crimes being committed in what once was a great city. A whole host of things he can tell the world about later.

Maybe that's more of a reason to put pressure on the government to do something. Instead of waiting until later to talk about it, maybe it would be a good thing to push the government now when it is needed most.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 01:27 AM

You are right by saying that people can't blindly follow any source, whether it be a party, the president, or the media. Critiquing what has been done is very helpful in understanding what should be done next time; however, many people, like Michael Moore, just do so to further their political image.

Putting pressure on the government now would make sense, but not by just complaining. If Moore has ideas on how this country should be run, he should say them. Not just criticize someone who might be doing all that's in his power for the state of Louisiana. There is a difference between "pointing fingers" and "pushing the government to take action." Had the government not been doing all that it can do, Moore's complaints would have come close to reason.

For all Moore knows, for all I know, for all you know, the government might have restrictions and problems that slow the relief process (this has to be signed, this has to be authorized, blah, blah, blah).

I know Bush can't "micro-manage" all the other states, but the country as a whole does not reside in New Orleans. The greater portion of the U.S. has other problems to be dealt with. None as bad as the flooding, of course. But if the government just completely stopped putting any attention towards my state in light of the floods, I would definitely be angry.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 01:28 AM

Moore is really right...bush is afraid of black people. Roady, if you want to talk about rich, white, deceitful people, I'd take a look at Mr. President. I was all for the Afghanistan war, we got rid of the taliban. But the Iraq war, not helping with Katrina...1 B and a bunch of F's don't get you a good grade. Just because you liked him at first doesn't mean you have to stick witht he choice. Here's a game. If you can name more good things he's done than bad, I'll give him a chance. If he really tried instead of getting bad advice from Rove and Cheney, maybe he could be good. Maybe. The N'awliners really need help. Really. And there's no excuse. He's spead so thin in Iraq that he can't call people into Louisiana. Also roady, you're white. And stop bashing Moore's fatness, mmkay? Lotsa people are fat. And soothsayer tricks? Huh?
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 02:33 AM

I saw a tape of him talking to black citizens of New Orleans. He was walking through the devastation talking with 2 African American women. Stop listening to Green Day's, "Bush is a Redneck" and pull your head out of the gutter. Bush is not stupid. Bush is not a racist. Bush is not a political puppet.

Yes, I'm white, but I'm not trying to get African Americans to support me in a political rant, mmmkay?
The fat part was because he does not take action. He merely sits back and complains. And he's fat, which is true. I used to be fat, and I worked through it because it killed my self-esteem. I sympathize with overweight people who are depressed, and I encourage overweight people to try to lose the pounds. However, overweight people who sit back with complacence written all over their smug faces doing nothing but complaining do not earn my sympathy. Even if he was skinny, he shouldn't sit back and complain.

The National Guard is what you want to talk about, ayluman. They're for disasters. They're in there as we speak (or type. whatever). They were not in there at first because of the reasons displayed in Ratzaroony's post. The power grid went down. It is not Bush's fault.

Moore uses soothsayer tricks to take what Americans don't know and tell them whatever is needed to make them angry at the president. He doesn't necessarily use truth because what he says is what the whole New Orleans disaster looks like at first glance. People see the devastation and hear Moore's words. They piece together something laced with lies.

Plus, we had this debate over AIM. I won "kind of" (direct quote from when I asked if I had "won" our debate).
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 02:53 AM

yay! roady iis winning!
back on topic: why are you criticizing bush anyway? i mean, even if he is late at times, better late than never. he could just sit back and say "Screw the nation! let them suffer. i have golf to play." but no, he tries to help. so don't criticize him. i have nothing else to say, because road pretty much said it all
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 02:55 AM

I'm not necessarily defending Moore, but I'm just wondering, what was he lying about? From my perspective it is just propaganda, and if there is no substance behind it I don't understand why Bush supporters are so hot about everything he does. He is allowed to have an opinion and express it, instead of just shooting him down as a person maybe one would accomplish more by countering what he says.

It's the difference between fighting to discredit a person for unrelated reasons and countering the actual ideas being conveyed.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 03:02 AM

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back on topic: why are you criticizing bush anyway? i mean, even if he is late at times, better late than never. he could just sit back and say "Screw the nation! let them suffer. i have golf to play." but no, he tries to help. so don't criticize him. i have nothing else to say, because road pretty much said it all

Better late than never, but better to be on top of things than late. Many died because of it who otherwise could have been saved. Now they are fearing that the death toll will reach into the thousands. I think that is major, and worthy of criticism if infact something could have been done earlier.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 03:17 AM

QUOTE(Cspace @ Sep 3 2005, 11:02 PM)
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back on topic: why are you criticizing bush anyway? i mean, even if he is late at times, better late than never. he could just sit back and say "Screw the nation! let them suffer. i have golf to play." but no, he tries to help. so don't criticize him. i have nothing else to say, because road pretty much said it all

Better late than never, but better to be on top of things than late. Many died because of it who otherwise could have been saved. Now they are fearing that the death toll will reach into the thousands. I think that is major, and worthy of criticism if infact something could have been done earlier.
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that's true, bush could have been quicker. if he had, many would have been safe, even alive. He wasn't and many now dislike him for it. but in the survivors' time of need, i shall not keep hate in my heart. i shal keep my head high, and help where i can, even fromk a different state. I don't feel like arguing anymore, so i'm just going to say this: whenever you can, find a red cross or other donation place and donate to the people who lost everything. that's what i will be doin this tuesday when the people colloecting come to our school again.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 03:39 AM

Cspace, you make a valid point, so here are the lies:

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Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers?
Number one, in my opinion, they aren't misplaced, but that's besides the point. There were choppers airlifting people. I've seen multiple tapes.

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Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?
National Guard soldiers are in New Orleans. For why they weren't there to begin with, see Ratzaroony's post.

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That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you?
See Ratzaroony's post.

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there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job
for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
He acts like democracy in Iraq is a bad thing. Considering the alternative: an evil dictator, democracy looks pretty fine, doesn't it? So why are we wrong in trying to set up a democratic government in Iraq?

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Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
Other members of the cabinet deal with environmental issues, not the president. Blaming him is wrong. If you want, blame legislators for not coming up with more bills to stop global warming.

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It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town
Actually, it's not. The mayor and governor (governess?) are the people you should look at for lack of transportation and the poverty (although poverty is very hard to get rid of. There will always be poor).

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