So i'm in church sunday...
#1
Posted 23 May 2006 - 05:17 PM
I was sitting with a friend and her family sunday morning. I go to a normal, southern baptist church...but guess what walks in the door. My friends fellow student from school. A gay, cross-dressing Emo....
He wasn't wearing girls clothes then, but still. My friend freaked out...I could not belive this had happened...
He wasn't wearing girls clothes then, but still. My friend freaked out...I could not belive this had happened...
Cliff=Bumgardner
#2
Posted 23 May 2006 - 06:10 PM
I was sitting with a friend and her family sunday morning. I go to a normal, southern baptist church...but guess what walks in the door. My friends fellow student from school. A gay, cross-dressing Emo....
He wasn't wearing girls clothes then, but still. My friend freaked out...I could not belive this had happened...
In all churches everyone should be accepted, I don't care where you go if people aren't accepted then God will beat you down with a cross
-- Jeff
#3
Posted 23 May 2006 - 06:48 PM
Dude, 1 not my point.
2, Yeah we accept all walks of life but not gay, god hating, american hating emos.
This guy hates god, stepped on the american flag, wrote on the american flag...the list goes on. I'm not saying he wasn't excepted i'm just saying it freaked me out..nevermind..
2, Yeah we accept all walks of life but not gay, god hating, american hating emos.
This guy hates god, stepped on the american flag, wrote on the american flag...the list goes on. I'm not saying he wasn't excepted i'm just saying it freaked me out..nevermind..
Cliff=Bumgardner
#4
Posted 23 May 2006 - 06:53 PM
Dude, 1 not my point.
2, Yeah we accept all walks of life but not gay, god hating, american hating emos.
This guy hates god, stepped on the american flag, wrote on the american flag...the list goes on. I'm not saying he wasn't excepted i'm just saying it freaked me out..nevermind..
So therefore you don't accept all walks of life.
-- Jeff
PS: Not trying to 'come down on you' or anything, but I'm just saying I'm a Christian (no denomination, I follow Christ's teachings, not the teaching of man).
#8
Posted 23 May 2006 - 10:01 PM
Even if it is wrong, which I do believe it is, Jesus would NEVER turn down people (but now I'm debating) anyway he would take the downtruting and turn them into believers simply by being nice to them and showing he really did care and want to get to know them.
-- Jeff
-- Jeff
#9
Posted 23 May 2006 - 10:37 PM
I was sitting with a friend and her family sunday morning. I go to a normal, southern baptist church...but guess what walks in the door. My friends fellow student from school. A gay, cross-dressing Emo....
He wasn't wearing girls clothes then, but still. My friend freaked out...I could not belive this had happened...
maybe he was trying to go striaght...
the thing about the gays is that being gay is something that it is something that God didn't create us for... so in my view, gay people would have to go straight if they want to take God in to live in their hearts. i accepted God when i was... well, when iwas baptised at the age of... i think only a few months old.
i don't think i made very much sense, sorry about that.
#12
Posted 24 May 2006 - 05:01 AM
Malachai 1:3
"but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals."
A quick search on Esau says that he's the son of Isaac and Rebekah, and says nothing about homosexuality.
In conclusion, people who are homophobic are fags.
#13
Posted 24 May 2006 - 05:05 AM
Somehow i think this is turning into a debat topic... which i don't mind to say the least
first of all
I'm Christian, and Pentecostal, oh one thing, you can't be "Christian" and not have a denomination, because if your saying "I'm a Christian (no denomination, I follow Christ's teachings, not the teaching of man)." Then you aren't a Christian, the "teaching of man" i really don't know where you get that from, all denominations are different, we follow the Bible, and "being a Christian" means you follow the christian faith, therefore u can't just make up your own religion and say "i just follow his teachings" because his teachings are part of the Bible.. so u're kinda screwing u'reself if u say u're christian, when u're not. And by the way, yes humans wrote the Bible, but as it does say in the Bible that God has filled the authors with the knowledge to write the particular books.
But anyway, back to the point, the Christian faith should, and does accept all people, no matter who they are, I personally don't like Gay people, but not because they're gay, but because of their lifestyle. God loves all people, but he doesn't like (in this case) the gay lifestyle, because the 'gay acts' are considered wrong. And the fact that he walked into your church, is probably a good thing, not a bad one, i mean, maybe he is really messed up and has nowhere to turn to, what kind of response is it if u just shurg him of because he "hates God" i mean, why would he be there?
In these situations you have to be careful, and you have to approach him like any other person, with love and acceptance. Coptic Orthodox, he'll just see that denomination as "gay haters" and might label the whole Christian faith as being "gay haters" which is totally not true.
And this
And God made all people in his likeness, does that mean that Gay people are.... excluded? No it's the fact that Gay people can choose to take their life any path they want, same with all other humans. And for Gay people to have to be straight before they could accept God is also not true, anyone can accept God, your sins are forgiven, but it would be expected that his 'lifestyle'(and i mean his gay way) would have to eventually turn around, and with the help of God that would be extrememly possible. If you want something bad enough it'll get done, get accomplished etc.
And if all you have to say about a topic is "..." because u're islamic, there is really no point... is there? Just think if it was in your situation, for your religion. But anyway, enough rambling...
first of all
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Dude, 1 not my point.
2, Yeah we accept all walks of life but not gay, god hating, american hating emos.
This guy hates god, stepped on the american flag, wrote on the american flag...the list goes on. I'm not saying he wasn't excepted i'm just saying it freaked me out..nevermind..
2, Yeah we accept all walks of life but not gay, god hating, american hating emos.
This guy hates god, stepped on the american flag, wrote on the american flag...the list goes on. I'm not saying he wasn't excepted i'm just saying it freaked me out..nevermind..
I'm Christian, and Pentecostal, oh one thing, you can't be "Christian" and not have a denomination, because if your saying "I'm a Christian (no denomination, I follow Christ's teachings, not the teaching of man)." Then you aren't a Christian, the "teaching of man" i really don't know where you get that from, all denominations are different, we follow the Bible, and "being a Christian" means you follow the christian faith, therefore u can't just make up your own religion and say "i just follow his teachings" because his teachings are part of the Bible.. so u're kinda screwing u'reself if u say u're christian, when u're not. And by the way, yes humans wrote the Bible, but as it does say in the Bible that God has filled the authors with the knowledge to write the particular books.
But anyway, back to the point, the Christian faith should, and does accept all people, no matter who they are, I personally don't like Gay people, but not because they're gay, but because of their lifestyle. God loves all people, but he doesn't like (in this case) the gay lifestyle, because the 'gay acts' are considered wrong. And the fact that he walked into your church, is probably a good thing, not a bad one, i mean, maybe he is really messed up and has nowhere to turn to, what kind of response is it if u just shurg him of because he "hates God" i mean, why would he be there?
In these situations you have to be careful, and you have to approach him like any other person, with love and acceptance. Coptic Orthodox, he'll just see that denomination as "gay haters" and might label the whole Christian faith as being "gay haters" which is totally not true.
And this
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and turn them into believers simply by being nice to them and showing he really did care and want to get to know them.
Where do u get this nonsense? Jesus didn't "make people believers" by being nice, people believed in him, so that's why they follow him, i thought this was obvious, obviously not.And God made all people in his likeness, does that mean that Gay people are.... excluded? No it's the fact that Gay people can choose to take their life any path they want, same with all other humans. And for Gay people to have to be straight before they could accept God is also not true, anyone can accept God, your sins are forgiven, but it would be expected that his 'lifestyle'(and i mean his gay way) would have to eventually turn around, and with the help of God that would be extrememly possible. If you want something bad enough it'll get done, get accomplished etc.
And if all you have to say about a topic is "..." because u're islamic, there is really no point... is there? Just think if it was in your situation, for your religion. But anyway, enough rambling...
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#14
Posted 24 May 2006 - 06:20 AM
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