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#1 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Neraphym {lang:icon}

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 10:54 PM

There are some people that believe we should preach abstinence and nothing else, and others who maintain that a comprehensive sex education program (that include abstinence as well as condoms) is better. What do you believe to be the better option for educating people around the world about the subject of sex?

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#2 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Jake {lang:icon}

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 11:08 PM

I think we need better sex ed in general. About a week ago I was trying to tell a girl that having sex in a hottub does not mean you won't get pregnant.
That kind of misinformation is what causes people to have kids at 16.

Also, comprehensive ftw. We aren't retards, we can make decisions for ourselves.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 12:18 AM

Ah, yes, abstinence. Teaching abstinence and nothing else is pointless.
STDs, birth control, and the like all need to be discussed because, well, as nice as it sounds to have everyone conforming to a specific set of morals, it is impossible. That's why abstinence should be talked about, but not the basis of sex education.

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 12:30 AM

im going wit jake on this 1. people have kids in high school, thats nuts. u y, cuz u would have to take care of ur baby, so u would have to miss classes and probably end up failing high school. they should teach the people more about sexual intercourse cuz some girls r just so dumb to wat to do(and guys), no offence. thumb.gif

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#5 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Jake {lang:icon}

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 12:59 AM

Yeah, it's not just girls... guys can be just as dumb.
They tend to be fathers at 16.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 01:15 AM

uhh, i said guys too bluetongue.gif
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 05:07 AM

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im going wit jake on this 1. people have kids in high school, thats nuts. u y, cuz u would have to take care of ur baby, so u would have to miss classes and probably end up failing high school. they should teach the people more about sexual intercourse cuz some girls r just so dumb to wat to do(and guys), no offence. thumb.gif

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#8 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Zandabyte {lang:icon}

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 05:35 AM

QUOTE(Jake @ Dec 11 2007, 07:08 PM) {lang:macro__view_post}
people to have kids at 16.

I have seen as young as 12


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Posted 13 December 2007 - 09:43 PM

Some kids will have sex no matter what you tell them. Those with self-control and life goals probably have already made the promise to themselves to not have sex until they feel they are truly ready. Still, I think as a whole kids should know a little more than they do.
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Posted 14 December 2007 - 03:31 AM

I say schools can teach whatever they please. Since when has it been the school, television, and the music industry's job to raise your kids?

My point: If you don't want your kids having pre-marital sex (or whatever it may be), teach them. If you'd like they to be responsible when they do, teach them. Don't want them addicted to crack? RAISE THEM. It'll give you a challenge, ya know? Put your good old parenting skills to the test. bluetongue.gif How 'bout it?


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they should teach the people more about sexual intercourse cuz some girls r just so dumb to wat to do(and guys), no offence.



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

As if adolescents really need to learn these things in school bluetongue.gif If you can't figure it out day of, you probably shouldn't be doing it.
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Posted 14 December 2007 - 05:43 AM

Lot's of people believe that raising the child is solely the responsibility of the parents, however, it is quite evident that a majority of parents aren't equipped for this task. That is why we send kids to school. Parents aren't good teachers; they aren't knowledgeable on most subjects. If anything, sex education is perhaps the hardest thing a parent can be expected to teach their kids. In effect, it IS the school's job to raise your kids to some extent.

Also, I am concerned about parents abusing their children by keeping them ignorant. Keep them home schooled and teach them creationism over evolution. Teach them that demons cause illness, and not germs. Teach them that technology is evil, and that enduring a harsh life of unnecessary labor is good. As a humane, free society, we must guarantee that our citizens are educated to minimal standards. If necessary, we need to pull a child away from his or her parents in order to give the child an opportunity to not be ignorant. Sex education that is comprehensive ought to be mandatory, regardless of a child's parent's wishes. Keeping a child in ignorance and feeding it misinformation is a form of child abuse, and that needs to stop.


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Posted 14 December 2007 - 06:18 AM

I do agree with Bobette on her point that parents do need to realize they have -responsibilities-, as parents, to educate their children. Perhaps not in science, mathematics, and English, because yes, that is precisely what school is for. But do schools teach everything? No. They teach what they feel we as people must know in order to work. Would they care about sex education and whether a fourteen year old gets pregnant if it didn't affect how much money the country earned?

Cynicism aside, abstinence-only programs are ridiculous. No matter if one wishes to refrain from pre-marital sex or not, -of course- there are those who won't. It's not that sex education that actually educates discourages or shuns abstinence, it's that it strives to prevent something that can be preventable. If they're going to have sex anyway, it might as well be as safe as possible.

Now, if parents wish their children to remain abstinent, that is their job.
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Posted 14 December 2007 - 06:43 AM

QUOTE(Neraphym @ Dec 14 2007, 01:43 AM) {lang:macro__view_post}
Lot's of people believe that raising the child is solely the responsibility of the parents, however, it is quite evident that a majority of parents aren't equipped for this task. That is why we send kids to school. Parents aren't good teachers; they aren't knowledgeable on most subjects. If anything, sex education is perhaps the hardest thing a parent can be expected to teach their kids. In effect, it IS the school's job to raise your kids to some extent.

Also, I am concerned about parents abusing their children by keeping them ignorant. Keep them home schooled and teach them creationism over evolution. Teach them that demons cause illness, and not germs. Teach them that technology is evil, and that enduring a harsh life of unnecessary labor is good. As a humane, free society, we must guarantee that our citizens are educated to minimal standards. If necessary, we need to pull a child away from his or her parents in order to give the child an opportunity to not be ignorant. Sex education that is comprehensive ought to be mandatory, regardless of a child's parent's wishes. Keeping a child in ignorance and feeding it misinformation is a form of child abuse, and that needs to stop.


Hey im home schooled and im smarter than ever other kid in my town public schools don't even teach kids what the Renaissance is.
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Posted 14 December 2007 - 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(Neraphym @ Dec 14 2007, 01:43 AM) {lang:macro__view_post}
Lot's of people believe that raising the child is solely the responsibility of the parents, however, it is quite evident that a majority of parents aren't equipped for this task. That is why we send kids to school. Parents aren't good teachers; they aren't knowledgeable on most subjects. If anything, sex education is perhaps the hardest thing a parent can be expected to teach their kids. In effect, it IS the school's job to raise your kids to some extent.

Also, I am concerned about parents abusing their children by keeping them ignorant. Keep them home schooled and teach them creationism over evolution. Teach them that demons cause illness, and not germs. Teach them that technology is evil, and that enduring a harsh life of unnecessary labor is good. As a humane, free society, we must guarantee that our citizens are educated to minimal standards. If necessary, we need to pull a child away from his or her parents in order to give the child an opportunity to not be ignorant. Sex education that is comprehensive ought to be mandatory, regardless of a child's parent's wishes. Keeping a child in ignorance and feeding it misinformation is a form of child abuse, and that needs to stop.


Hey im home schooled and im smarter than ever other kid in my town public schools don't even teach kids what the Renaissance is.

Really? ._o They taught -me- about the Renaissance in seventh grade, at least. bluetongue.gif And I have a suspicious feeling it'll be in world history this year again.

So, what kind of schools does -your- town have? bluetongue.gif And how exactly do you know they don't teach about the Renaissance if you're homeschooled? ._o Friends? Just wondering.
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Posted 14 December 2007 - 06:59 AM

QUOTE(Nazy @ Dec 14 2007, 02:50 AM) {lang:macro__view_post}
QUOTE(Evil Cow @ Dec 13 2007, 10:43 PM) {lang:macro__view_post}
QUOTE(Neraphym @ Dec 14 2007, 01:43 AM) {lang:macro__view_post}
Lot's of people believe that raising the child is solely the responsibility of the parents, however, it is quite evident that a majority of parents aren't equipped for this task. That is why we send kids to school. Parents aren't good teachers; they aren't knowledgeable on most subjects. If anything, sex education is perhaps the hardest thing a parent can be expected to teach their kids. In effect, it IS the school's job to raise your kids to some extent.

Also, I am concerned about parents abusing their children by keeping them ignorant. Keep them home schooled and teach them creationism over evolution. Teach them that demons cause illness, and not germs. Teach them that technology is evil, and that enduring a harsh life of unnecessary labor is good. As a humane, free society, we must guarantee that our citizens are educated to minimal standards. If necessary, we need to pull a child away from his or her parents in order to give the child an opportunity to not be ignorant. Sex education that is comprehensive ought to be mandatory, regardless of a child's parent's wishes. Keeping a child in ignorance and feeding it misinformation is a form of child abuse, and that needs to stop.


Hey im home schooled and im smarter than ever other kid in my town public schools don't even teach kids what the Renaissance is.

Really? ._o They taught -me- about the Renaissance in seventh grade, at least. bluetongue.gif And I have a suspicious feeling it'll be in world history this year again.

So, what kind of schools does -your- town have? bluetongue.gif And how exactly do you know they don't teach about the Renaissance if you're homeschooled? ._o Friends? Just wondering.

not my town Maine and i worked at a halloween shop and they asked me what those costumes where from i told them Renaissance they had no clue what i was talking about and it happened a lot.
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