[Crescens]

Maybe I should clarify the Canada remark a bit, 'cause it seems I pissed a few people off.

The Russians sent people to Siberia to do hard labor when they weren't up to scratch. It's cold in Siberia. Similarly, the US could send people that committed crimes to Alaska. It's cold in Alaska. And Canada. If it was too taxing to send them all the way north to Alaska to do hard labor, we could exile them from the country. They wouldn't be a burden on the US anymore. Mexico could probably work, too, aside from the fact that the weather is too nice down there. Hence, one little Canada remark. No need to go ballistic over it, folks.

[X Zolon]

Well, then specify. Because that sounded like you were saying that Canada is full of other countries' unproductive rejects.

And I am NOT a reject.

[Xemem]

crescens... my father is a herpitologist(someone who deals in the study and care of reptiles). I am working toward similar goals. I have stack of disorginized(the sign that some one makes use of them to often to keep them in order) books, specificaly on animals(mostly terrapains, camains, anphibians, canids...and many on general fuana throughout the world). I work at a feed bin, and I volenteer my time at a local zoo wich trains animals for movies, comercials, and tv shows. we have 63 animals(exotic and domestic) at my home, ranging from feed(ants, mill worms, crickets, and mice...they are not included in my count of 63 animals as they are raised to die) all the way up to, monitors, rattlers, cockatoos, iguanas ect... animal planet is on our tv 24-7. I go to every animal show within 50 miles of me... animals and the wild kingdom are my life, and if there is one thing I dislike the most it is when people try to correct me on what I KNOW about them and there enviroments. im not the best at spelling, or forming sentances properly and I can be called on alot of things. But the one thing I wouldnt chalenge my knowledge on is the natural world as far as it concerns living things(other thanhumans lol, we are probably the oddest creature there is). your view on animals is from what I can see an un-educated one....go ahead and question my comparing humans to lower life forms, thats fair. but I heard someone one here (maybe you...dont know), say something along the lines of a debate being based on facts and logic, where as and argument is based on fellings and mostly non-fact based opinions. abnt society is in anarchy. the popular belief is that they serve the queen. that is not true. the queens only role is to give birth over and over. she gioves birth to only females, each one a copy of the last(there are a few different types like workers, soldiers and such, but reach soldier or worker is an essential clone of the last). and once a year( sometimes more time between this event) she gives birth to both males and females with wings(a trace of there desent from the wasp). these take off and start a new colony... it is not a dictatorship, becuase no ant is giving any orders. no one ant keeps another in check. they all do what they want to but becuase they are all pre-programmed to want the same thing they end up working together. it is anarchy that works...also I believe you mentioned wolfs and bears? both of these are social animals that respect and follow a hiearchy(i dont know that I spelled that rite). respect boundries and territories, and the rules of interaction. even though there are fights over just what the boundries, rules, and whos in charge are that doesnt chngwe that they live in orginized society. yes bears are loners for the most part but they still go by these ways. but wolfs are a pack animal, and not loners unless they loose a few fights and no longer have a place. and even then they may return or find another nich, if not they will die, becuase wolf survivals is based on group cooperation. even coyotes will form a loose group that only comes together for hunting, and then disbands again. but even in the animal kingdome anarchy is rare, but it is present, and does work in its place... I do agree that for humans it wont work(at least not for long if it was tried)... and also I here people here refere to cavemen as some how sub human? its not true, they were fully eveolved humans large brain and all, and lived in societies just as complex socialy as ours. they may only seem dumb cuase they didnt have what we did. but you have to remember, that they didnt have alot of leasure time. that same brain we put to work to send people to space, they were using to over come rivals far more well adapted and physicaly stronger then them. for them it was survive then thrive. I dont know if this came of rude, crescens. if it did I didnt mean it that way. but I felt as if I was dismissed when my opinions are based on factual knowlede and experience. and also I did not mean for it to be this long winded lol, but it just kept comming and I just kept typing.

[Raktor]

[Crescens]

The making of gun laws has actually increased murder rates. Why? Because gun laws don't work. The people that commit murders are usually those that get guns illegally. Thus, all gun laws do is prevent people that would only use the gun in self-defense from defending themselves. Hence, murderers have no reason to fear a counterattack from their target should they miss, and are MORE LIKELY to commit murders. I don't see how anyone can be in favor of gun control when all it does is cause MORE crime.

If gun laws COULD be enforced effectively, and all illegal trade of firearms stopped entirely (idealistic solution), I would support gun laws. Then, only government-appointed officials could have guns, and crime would become much less of a problem.

[Lprince]

ahem, look at britain, no guns, no gun crime!

mind u look at canada, more guns than the u.s., less rules on use of guns, and yet a LOT less gun crime........

but ill say it again, look at britain.
u americans are just parinoid!
and thats why u get so much crime!

[Xemem]

um... I watched this thing on tlc(the learning chanle), about crime in eruope vrs other countries(well, actually on the crime rate of all major countries, and regoins). I recall something from the show saying that brittian, allthough it has a lower rate of violent crime commited with guns, that it it does have a violent crime rate comparable to the usa's gun crime rate, but committed with blades, as they are more concellable and go rite through kevlar like hot butter knives through..well butter.

[©allum]

Even so, a stabbing is quite uncommon in Britain.

[Xemem]

the point is, amongst humans, crime happens every where. weather on a large or small scale, by guns or by knives it happens, and in every country. I dont care, if someone doesn't agree(If some people think that there are some places with no crime). I think that there is pretty much an even amount of crime every where, and why you here about more places being worse then others, is that some places dont talk about it. also It seems that every place with a low crime rate is a pretty small place as well. you cant exept as much crime in brittian, finland, france, poland ect. ect. vrs. america...america is at least 10x the size of any one of these countries. heck some of our states are the size of alot of these countires or bigger. of course we are going to have more crime and we are going more people in prisonthen just about any where else(I dont know bout the peoples rebublic of china, or a few other places). we have more space then most, with more diversity, and more to manage. and as for cannada...well im looking at one of the political/geographical map thingies rite now and they seem to be just over half the size of america, and its not like they could be even near as populated...*pant*. take all of europe and some of asia and I think that should just about amount to the size of the u.s.a(and thats prolly not including hawaii and alaska)....take all of europe some of asia, and a ll canada and you should equal our size in crime rate, population, and geographic area(and just maybe ethnic diversity, but I dought it). then when youve calculated most of the worlds crime compare it to america. and if its still better(lower then the us), then you should remember that we are what, only about 300 years old, so we are still working all the kinks out.