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Should Retarted Criminals Be Executed?

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Should Retarted Criminals Be Executed?

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#1 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Killerconvic {lang:icon}

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 09:10 PM

Well, what do you think?

I personally feel that anyone who commits a crime worthy of the death penalty (such as homicide, genocide, jaywalking [bluetongue.gif]) needs to be executed. Don't let mental or physical retardation be an excuse.
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Posted 29 May 2004 - 09:15 PM

No one should be executed. If you execute some one, in your own logic, you'd had to kill yourself afterwards...
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Posted 29 May 2004 - 09:58 PM

I don't think they should. Think of the guy who killed the Beatles member.
Can't remember his name, but he loved the Beatles. He thought that the man he shot was an imposter. But I don't think this regards to all people that are mentally ill (retarded I use as an insult bluetongue.gif ). If it's light mental illness, like slurred speach, you're not getting of the hook. Only If your brain is sickly twisted.
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Posted 29 May 2004 - 10:45 PM

Punished, not killed.
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Posted 30 May 2004 - 12:05 AM

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There are several other issues regarding the death penalty, which have been debated. However, the liberal and conservative views are not necessarily in as strong of contrast regarding such issues. One such issue is whether those who suffer from mental disabilities such as retardation, and are not necessarily capable of thinking logically about their actions should still be held accountable for them. In the Mario Marquez case of 1995, a mentally retarded man was executed for the rape and murder of a woman who was eighteen years old (his former wife), and a girl who was only fourteen years old (his niece) (Bender 172). Liberals argue that the retarded "do not get thorough evaluation" based on their disability, and that the retarded are incapable of understanding the justice system (Bender 175). In contrast, conservatives argue that even if the mentally retarded are incapable of understanding the justice system and/or making associations between actions taken and consequences that result from actions being taken, that should not make them exempt from the law. For example, in the Mario Marquez case of January 1995, Marquez was sentenced to death, despite being mentally retarded, due to the nature of the murders he had committed (Bender 176). Conservatives believe that everyone should always be held accountable for their actions, regardless of the circumstances that may precede them.

Note: This is not my opinion, it is Crescens'.
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Posted 30 May 2004 - 02:05 AM

I beleive that mental imparement is something to take into consideration.

Those of you who are about to say "does it make it right for drunk people then?" well here: no. absolutely not. But, you don't see mentally ill people being arrested because they are mentally ill (even though they might as well be, with how horrible things are in the place with men in white suites...).

Self-induced mental imparment should not be a matter, but mental imparement from birth, or accidents beyond your control should lead to your sentence being lessened. I think execution is acceptable, only because the people had it coming. But mentally impared people don't have that coming, because they can't do otherwise.
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Posted 30 May 2004 - 02:40 AM

Punished yea... but not executed...
Okay let me ask you a question, does everyone jay walk here? I am sure that pretty much everyone does when the police or whatever is not here. Because you rush and so on... Okay fine, probably its not you. Maybe it is someone you love or care about. Do you want them to die or not...
As for the homicide and genocide... dead, one guy dead makes the world better...

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 05:26 AM

QUOTE (mase windu @ May 29 2004, 10:05 PM)
Those of you who are about to say "does it make it right for drunk people then?" well here: no. absolutely not. But, you don't see mentally ill people being arrested because they are mentally ill (even though they might as well be, with how horrible things are in the place with men in white suites...).

People who are drunk should get the death enalty, or at least life, because they chose to drink.

And the men in the white suit's like to make me play dressup in a white blankey and a safety pin.
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Posted 30 June 2004 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE (mase windu @ May 29 2004, 09:05 PM)
I beleive that mental imparement is something to take into consideration.

Those of you who are about to say "does it make it right for drunk people then?" well here: no. absolutely not. But, you don't see mentally ill people being arrested because they are mentally ill (even though they might as well be, with how horrible things are in the place with men in white suites...).

Self-induced mental imparment should not be a matter, but mental imparement from birth, or accidents beyond your control should lead to your sentence being lessened. I think execution is acceptable, only because the people had it coming. But mentally impared people don't have that coming, because they can't do otherwise.

Great point, Mase.

Drunk people are drunk by CHOICE, they took down copius amounts of crap to get themselves that way. bluetongue.gif People don't ask to be born handicapped.
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Posted 01 July 2004 - 03:14 AM

QUOTE (mase windu @ May 30 2004, 02:05 AM)

Those of you who are about to say "does it make it right for drunk people then?" well here: no. absolutely not.  But, you don't see mentally ill people being arrested because they are mentally ill (even though they might as well be, with how horrible things are in the place with men in white suites...).

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Those of you who are about to say "does it make it right for drunk people then?" well here: no. absolutely not.  But, you don't see mentally ill people being arrested because they are mentally ill (even though they might as well be, with how horrible things are in the place with men in white suites...)..
Alright u know what i do agree with this cause ur right mentally ill people dont get arrested for being mentally ill...but for u to say they mine as well be...thats not fair just because there mentally handicap doesnt mean they shouldnt have a life an who ru to judge?
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.Great point, Mase.

Drunk people are drunk by CHOICE, they took down copius amounts of crap to get themselves that way.  People don't ask to be born handicapped
ok god only knows what ur talkin bout it really wasnt that great.

KC: What are you talking about? Glam is saying that people who are drunk are drunk by choice, so they should not be treated the same way as other people who are handicapped. Oh, and don't say that someone's debate "isn't that great", or your posts will be split to the Deletion Archive.
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Baseballl Posted on May 29 2004, 10:45 PM
  Punished, not killed

i totally agree with base....if u go around let say executing people for murder ur just as guilty who are u to judge ur killing some one for killing some one an two wrongs dont make a right i say punish them an then let god deal with it!
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