[Baseballl]

Hey, got any room for a rune miner in this clan?? (Used as a joke, not an insult to Argy).

Anyways, I got into the riddle contest and I said that whoever got the next riddle correct could decide if I stayed here or not. I won the riddle and I actually decided to stay. I don't want to sound like I'm leaving and returning, but I haven't done it 10 times

I actually decided to come back after being asked a million time and because I want to stay. I was getting down the day that I got mad because of the divorce and some bad days at work, very long hours. That IS NOT an excuse since giving one isn't going to change anything. I didn't want to throw everything I have here down the drain because of a few people that make me mad. I also figured that whoever wanted me to leave will now suffer a nice defeat since I'm not leaving

I said that I would apologize if I did return and I will keep my word. I'm sorry for the insults that I said and the people that were hurt by it. I didn't have any justifiable reason or cause to be doing it other than that I was going to make a presentation to the members of Seed to help them (it would fit into the Mediator program). This presentation was going to be constructive criticism and would include the Mediators and even the other leaders in the clan where their weaknesses and their specialties would be listed to better improve how people go about solving conflicts. I was going to show each individual their section and they could edit it if needed so it wouldn't be offensive to them.

I'm also sorry for kicking and banning those people in the chat. Lately I have been doing things that I would never do and should never have done. I can also admit that certain people have been pushing me to do these things and I shouldn't have listened. It seems that certain friends here in Seed have been impacting me very negatively and I need to stop listening to them.

I have actually been in very poor spirits due to my divorce and I haven't been feeling all that well. I can admit to falsely accusing people of things and just about everything was getting on my nerves (as you could see, lol).

Although I have been reporting the situations that I see as being "negative" inside the clan, I should have been following up or trying to prevent them in the first place. I should stop worrying about what people say and stop trying to defend everyone who is "wronged". It isn't my place to be a big brother in this clan, it is my place to try and help the people in it.

Personal Apologies:
Cspace: I'm sorry for flipping out on you and for being hard-headed and not wanting to end the conflict.

Killerconvic: I'm sorry for accusing you so many times of base-less accusations. Although you can get on my nerves because of your posting habits, I can try to not let it bother me.

Bigbro: It was not in my intentions to target you by using your name in the chat (Bleep). I'm sorry if it did offend you and I don't want a friendship to be lost over a stupid thing I have done.

Gotenks: I shouldn't have insulted you in the chat under my real name or a fake identity. It wasn't my place to be spamming the chat with the sounds either, although I wasn't flooding. I'm sorry for anything I did to offend you.

Crescens: I don't know when or how I have ever gotten on your bad side, but I'm sorry for being against you. I know that you have insulted MANY people, but everyone has an off day. I shouldn't be judging you because you can be prejudiced sometimes, everyone is different and your beliefs don't have to conflict with mine.

As you have seen, I'm not a perfect person either. I'm hoping I can be forgiven for my mistakes and try to sink back into my normal SeeD routine. I'm going to come back to Runescape only for social events. If anyone needs help, is gaining an important level, or wants to hang out, I will come on to do so if I'm asked. I don't know how long it will take for me to get back in and fit normally and I don't know how much dedication it will take, but I'm going to do so. Please post any comments on this that won't offend anyone

Thanks Alot,
Baseballl

[Star Jedi]

Thankyou for apologizing, it helps so much.

Welcome Back, Base

[Final F8]

Good on you for apologising.

But I don't know if I'll ever have the same respect for you as I used to.
and I personally don't think you deserve your Smod postition back... for a while anyway. But that's up to Cspace, I guess.

well, welcome back. I hope you can sort out whatever caused this little outburst and get back to normal.

[Baseballl]

I will accept some form of punishment, but I'm not the only person to insult someone so it better not be too harsh

[Goto]

I think this is for the best. I'm glad you apologised, at least it shows you realised what you had been doing was the wrong approach. I think it's worth stating that he was trying to help people, it just wasn't an effective way of doing so. This clan is very much based on giving second-chances, and I hope everyone extends this to Base. He's upset a lot of people, but so have others in other situations in the past.

As far as him regaining his rank, I'm not so sure that Final is right. If we rely on precedent, people have generally geen given back the rank they had, unless they've shown time and time again they can't be trusted with it. I think he probably should be smodded and elite generaled again, but then again it is Cspace's decision not mine.

[Styledragon1]

What about me serp GM8 and Gm8's sister??Maybe I can talk them and ask that what they gonna do but base....Man wow....Your return has probably ruined plans I had for certain things which only 2 members know of Hope they jus tsay quite about it.....

[Raktor]

Ruined plans? You shouldn't have plans which rely on other people leaving, Style.

Goto, I'm more on Final with this one. I'm not so sure he should be given his position back again, but I know how Cspace operates, and will probably supermoderate him again....

[Muler]

Thank you Alex for doing this (I can at least feel that I made some kind of difference heh). I understand that life can be tough. Just stay strong. Things will get better.

[Ferret Overlord]

Welcome back Base,
Thanks for apologizing, though I wasn't one of the people that needed an apology...

[MA-53]

gosh, base. I'm not suprised you are back, nor am I angry. At first I thought cspace had a typo in his post, because I knew you of all people wouldn't do that.

I guess I'm suprised, but I think it's nice of you to apologise. I'm fighting for no punishment, as glam and I caused all sorts of trouble on the forums for a few days, but we worked it out, and no punishments were given.

Although, then again, we didn't have a post in announcements for that .

I *suppose* I'd argue against punishment if you did two things for me:

If you did miss anyone when apologising, go apologise to them now.
look at my sig, and do what it tells you to do.

I ask that seeD as a whole welcome back Base, and remember the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin." we all make mistakes, and I think base is a little old for a time-out. He's mature, and he's gotten through it, I beleive we can trust him to not do it again, and to remember his mistake without punishment.

EDIT: in terms of respect, I think that people here need to question if they've ever had a divorce, (not a high-school break up, but a real divorce) and remember that it must be extremely hard on a person. Remember that in his position, you may have done the same.

If anything, my respect for Base is greater than before. He has admitted a mistake, accepted any punishment, and is doing his best not to let his personal life interfere with things in seeD. It's really great that he can stop, look behind him and say "gosh, is that really who I am?" It's not something everyone can do.

This post has been edited by mase windu: 13 July 2004 - 03:19 PM

[Spikeout]

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[Baseballl]

[Res]

Welcome back buddy...


KM

[Dragonman]

Glad to have you back Baseballl; and those apologies are great, they can always help somehow.

I don't you're going through hard times in your life, so next time it gets really bad, come here for support and encouragement from your friends. The least thing you need is enemies or even your friends becoming your enemies. We're always here to help each other out.

Welcome back

[Styledragon1]

Nah with you gone I woulda gotten in further....Now like I gotta Make new plans grrr well time to explain to the clan....