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Time and time travel
#1
Posted 24 May 2004 - 04:12 AM
Ok, I have come to the conclusion that "time" is not a real thing. Time is the arbitrary unit set in place to balance all other equasions in the world of pysics. time, is simply the "unit" created by the human mind to define the entropy of space towards a status of total entropy.
I said that time is imaginary. From what i can tell, it is not a tangible thing, thus rendering the idea of "time travel" just that, an idea, absolutly imposible because there is nothing to manipulate to acheive the desired outcome. One might argue that one could control space to
produce the efects of "time travel" but the laws of entropy make the reduction of overal entropy throughout the totality of "space" imposible. thus making it imposible to acheive the efects of 'Time Travel"
that's my main theory.
here's my backup theory.
Time is not percevable, it is totaly imposible to percieve or conrol time. As Humans, we perceive the passage of space from one state of entropy to another, this perception is called time. time in oher sceintfic ideas, is an acompanying body of space, a seprate controlable "entity". However, if the movment of time where to stop, there would be no perceivable efect, clocks would not stop, because they are governed entirly by the pysics of space. people would not stop ageing, as they are governed by space. Thus: there is no evidence to show that time exists as an acompanying entity to space.
now, this is all very weird and dogey, and gets especialy confusing if you start thinking about the theory of relitivity, however! after taking both the physics courses at my collage, i have found nothing to disprove these theorys.
what do you all think?
I said that time is imaginary. From what i can tell, it is not a tangible thing, thus rendering the idea of "time travel" just that, an idea, absolutly imposible because there is nothing to manipulate to acheive the desired outcome. One might argue that one could control space to
produce the efects of "time travel" but the laws of entropy make the reduction of overal entropy throughout the totality of "space" imposible. thus making it imposible to acheive the efects of 'Time Travel"
that's my main theory.
here's my backup theory.
Time is not percevable, it is totaly imposible to percieve or conrol time. As Humans, we perceive the passage of space from one state of entropy to another, this perception is called time. time in oher sceintfic ideas, is an acompanying body of space, a seprate controlable "entity". However, if the movment of time where to stop, there would be no perceivable efect, clocks would not stop, because they are governed entirly by the pysics of space. people would not stop ageing, as they are governed by space. Thus: there is no evidence to show that time exists as an acompanying entity to space.
now, this is all very weird and dogey, and gets especialy confusing if you start thinking about the theory of relitivity, however! after taking both the physics courses at my collage, i have found nothing to disprove these theorys.
what do you all think?

#5
Posted 18 July 2004 - 04:30 PM
I used to know what some of those words were, but its summer now, so I can't really remember them.
Anyhow, your theories hold water. I really don't care about them though, as whether or not they are true, it affects me in no way (just like you said).
If you are wrong, and time travel is possible, it would follow DragonballZ rules, not Terminator or Back to the Future rules. DBZ says that whenever you go back into the past, the future you came from cannot be corrected, but a new future in a parallel world is created. This would mean copies of every smallest unit of time were made, making infinite universes. In Terminator or BTTF, everything that was done would have to be undone exactly (unplausible), in which time would not actually play a role.

If you are wrong, and time travel is possible, it would follow DragonballZ rules, not Terminator or Back to the Future rules. DBZ says that whenever you go back into the past, the future you came from cannot be corrected, but a new future in a parallel world is created. This would mean copies of every smallest unit of time were made, making infinite universes. In Terminator or BTTF, everything that was done would have to be undone exactly (unplausible), in which time would not actually play a role.
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#6
Posted 18 July 2004 - 04:42 PM
lol didnt superman turned back time by going around the world again and again? i dont know how he can turn back time by just doing that..time travel would be really awesome..but not for cheating purposes lol..maybe for like school [jurassic park!!] and to solve crimes. i doubt time travel is going to work but who knows.
#7
Posted 18 July 2004 - 07:13 PM
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If you are wrong, and time travel is possible, it would follow DragonballZ rules, not Terminator or Back to the Future rules. DBZ says that whenever you go back into the past, the future you came from cannot be corrected, but a new future in a parallel world is created. This would mean copies of every smallest unit of time were made, making infinite universes. In Terminator or BTTF, everything that was done would have to be undone exactly (unplausible), in which time would not actually play a role. |
you need to read "Timeline" by michel Chriton(sp?) it uses a theory somwhat like that. (good book also)
but however you look at it, time travel is either hard, imposible, or just plain anoying.

#8
Posted 18 July 2004 - 11:25 PM
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Numbers are just the same then?
Time is just a measurement, nothing more.
And yes, there is a way to bypass that measurement system. An astronaut doesn't age as quickly in space as he would on Earth. Therefore, travelling at the speed of light, which, one day, will be possible, an astronaut could travel 1 light day and come back to find all the people he knew dead. He wouuld come back maybe 70 [Earth] years while he only aged a day. Very confusing buisness. Very confusing.
Numbers are just the same then?
Time is just a measurement, nothing more.
And yes, there is a way to bypass that measurement system. An astronaut doesn't age as quickly in space as he would on Earth. Therefore, travelling at the speed of light, which, one day, will be possible, an astronaut could travel 1 light day and come back to find all the people he knew dead. He wouuld come back maybe 70 [Earth] years while he only aged a day. Very confusing buisness. Very confusing.
This post has been edited by Ferret Overlord: 18 July 2004 - 11:28 PM
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#9
Posted 18 July 2004 - 11:41 PM
Time does exist but not in the way we think, for if everything was created by some supreme being this supreme being would have to exist out of time, therefore wouldn't it be logical to assume this being had to be created by something? Or did it just appear out of nowehre. Is it just some human or other species that evolved so much it became out of time.
And if this is so is also logical to presume that we can asl come out of time, and if this is also so, how do we do it? Do we simply meditate for long hours, etc, do we make our bodies become to a peek physical position?
Frankly I think you would need to build yourself up in all realms:
Physical, Spiritual, Emotional, and Mental.
Also would this mean time doesn't actually have a pattern? Could it be that time can just jump from place to place. IE: We are tlaking now before we talked two minutes ago? And is time actually sealed by what we do? If it jumps back and forth, yet to us it goes in a straight pattern, then this would mean most likely nothing is affected by what we do. This could also mean that somehow time could be affected by us, yet it's not going by the same laws we know, and is totally different then our reality of space and time.
~ Kimojuno
And if this is so is also logical to presume that we can asl come out of time, and if this is also so, how do we do it? Do we simply meditate for long hours, etc, do we make our bodies become to a peek physical position?
Frankly I think you would need to build yourself up in all realms:
Physical, Spiritual, Emotional, and Mental.
Also would this mean time doesn't actually have a pattern? Could it be that time can just jump from place to place. IE: We are tlaking now before we talked two minutes ago? And is time actually sealed by what we do? If it jumps back and forth, yet to us it goes in a straight pattern, then this would mean most likely nothing is affected by what we do. This could also mean that somehow time could be affected by us, yet it's not going by the same laws we know, and is totally different then our reality of space and time.
~ Kimojuno
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