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Poll: Which group in the US suffered the most during its respective time period?

Which group in the US suffered the most during its respective time period?

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#1 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Crescens {lang:icon}

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 11:09 PM

Well? Feel free* to debate this, and if you feel that another group I've forgotten to include deserves to be on this list, feel free to mention that group, and I'll gladly include it. I think this debate has a lot of potential, and hope there's a good turnout.

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#2 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Muler {lang:icon}

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 11:31 PM

African Americans during slavery without a doubt.

They were slaves!

During the witchhunt I think that only 17 people were killed. The others people were rallied up and all, but not forced to be slaves and sold like items.


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Posted 06 August 2004 - 12:34 AM

Ditto with that one. There may have been some bad wars and such, slaughtering, whatever, but to be denied your own freedom, the choice of doing... anything! To be sold like livestock... To be treated so badly! All of that... incredibly bad.
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Posted 06 August 2004 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (Muler @ Aug 5 2004, 05:31 PM)
During the witchhunt I think that only 17 people were killed.

eek7.gif no only 17 were in maine in us all together like 373ish were killed pennsilvania was the wprst but maine had the worst torturement and started it that why they way maine did it all and wtf was with that like if you drowned and died you weren't a witch but if you swam then you would be killed... eek4.gif

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Posted 06 August 2004 - 01:19 AM

I say the Native americans/ westward expansion.
primaraly, because the abuse they received was hardly protested, and very government sanctioned at times. i.e. certan groups of native americans under "govornment protection" were intentionaly given blankets that had been used my persons with smallpox. it was a known fact that native americans had no imunitys to such diseases and thus, thousands of people were murdered via this painful disease. Also, the famous 'trail of tears" episode, where thousands of native americans were forced to march halfway across the US in a total relocation of there peoples away from there homes. If i remember corectly, more than half there number died during the march.

The reason i don't beleive that the slaves suffered the most, (although a close second) is the fact that most slave owners were not the steriotypical persons of tv and film who beat slaves for the slightest transgression. true, slavery is definitly an evil thing, but the overall treetment of the slaves was better than the native americans vecause the slaves receved shelter, somwhat decent food, ect. vs the treatment of the native americans on the early reservations (poor houseing, given rotten food, ect).
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Posted 06 August 2004 - 04:22 AM

Native Americans.

The 'Battle' of Wounded Knee. Hundreds of Indians butchered because one resisted arrest.

Killing Buffalo. Whites stood on trains and shot buffalo at random, effectively destroying the Indians food supply, clothes and everything else. The Indians depended on buffalo.

US Army killing them like animals because they wouldnt sell their holy land.

Forcing them into reservations. Reservations were built on land no settlers wanted, infertile soil and no water supply.
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Posted 06 August 2004 - 05:57 AM

OOoo Cal did you read that information on the Native Americans in our text book?

Anyways, I think the African-Americans because they were used as slaves! The fights between the "blacks" and the "whites" is just not right. Every human should have had the same rights as others and shouldn't have been used as slaves!!!



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Posted 07 August 2004 - 12:11 AM

The witch hunts were over a three hundred year period or something. Joan d' Arc was burned at the stake after being accused of a witch. (Just to show you how far back witch hunts date) A lot of people weren't killed, but then again, neither were many slaves. I'm just deciding by how long the persecution lasted, nothing more.
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 01:15 AM

this is just like a History Quiz during the summer lol
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 04:08 AM

George bush isnt on there so I voted null
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 04:09 AM

QUOTE (Ferret Overlord @ Aug 6 2004, 08:11 PM)
The witch hunts were over a three hundred year period or something. Joan d' Arc was burned at the stake after being accused of a witch. (Just to show you how far back witch hunts date) A lot of people weren't killed, but then again, neither were many slaves. I'm just deciding by how long the persecution lasted, nothing more.

Actually, since this is the worst suffering in the US, France does not count.

I voted blacks. Combination of slavery and fighting for civil rights.
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 04:36 AM

some of us really need to do some study of american history to understand what went on in our history.
out of the things listed the sufferage of the american indian is by far the worst and longest running. most of you dont understand that slaves where veiwed as property or cattle. i know of very few farmers that beat and mistreat their animals(the source of their income). in fact most slaves stayed on the farms after they were freed, as hired workers.

BTW a little known fact, and probablly the most horrible thing in us history is how john smith & the mormon church have been persectuted, and drove across the land.
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Posted 09 August 2004 - 01:16 PM

I actually think you guys might be right...Native American [abuse towards] is just as bad as African Americans. Now I'm split on this decision.

Edit: POST 2000!!! w00t w00t

This post has been edited by Justshifl: 09 August 2004 - 01:17 PM

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 07:06 PM

I'm the same way with this debate both the native americans and the blacks suffer the same amount

so this is why I am very split
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Posted 09 August 2004 - 10:03 PM

Cant we all just blame bush.....maybe some french cause they are the cause of the native americans suffering
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