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The Mods Are Lightening Up A Little

#1 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Cspace {lang:icon}

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 08:30 PM

I am just letting everyone know that the mod team is working on lightening up on everyone. A while back (especially on the old forums) everything was much more fun and worthwhile when members seemingly had more powers over their posts than the moderators. For example, back then a post in GD about video games wouldn't be instantly moved, posts would not be deleted for being old, moderators would not be issuing warnings in replies (instead via PM), threads would not be split after periodic super-short ("spammy") posts, and moderators were considered your friends and openly tried to help members with getting accustomed to the board and generally feeling welcome. I don't know when this changed but it has; not of every mod, but many.

I'm not saying that we are going to allow insane spamming and whatnot where not appropriate, but I'm just saying that mods will lighten up on everyone. Flaming and similar offences will be handled in the same way, but minor things such as short posts, thread revivals, and posts in slightly the wrong places will not warrant instant moderation. They don't need it.

The forums are here for the members and the mods help maintain a friendly community, that is how everything is intended to function. That is what we are striving to re-establish.

That means that the members, too, should not come down on each other over minor things. Please keep the following in mind:

- There are no requirements for spelling or grammar. Members could be young, of a non-English-speaking country, or just abusers of web lingo ( bluetongue.gif ). There is no need to mention it unless the member himself/herself brings it up first as a joke (as has happened).

- Some forums overlap. For example, a post about a video game or a new band is not off-topic in GD (not encouraged, but perfectly fine if desired to be posted there). The more specific forums are there for specific reasons and truly off-topic posts there can be moved (like a non-trivia post in the Trivia Forum). An exception, however, is with something such as a suggestion which requires specific attention. Posts such as these can be moved with links to the correct forum. Otherwise, please let members have freedom regarding where their posts are posted.

- Thread revivals are completely fine. You don't need to verbally object a revived post, if you really wish for it to remain dead then just don't post in it. If others agree then it will just disappear again. Otherwise, if members wish to post in an old thread, why stop them? Some may even like seeing old posts brought back such as early recruitment posts or classic spam in the Insanity Board grnwink.gif .

- Spam includes pointless posts. For example in a thread about dogs, spam could be a five-word post saying that the poster is eating ice cream right now. Spam is not defined as any short post. If someone posts a four-word reply, while it is not really recommended, as long as it is on-topic it doesn't require negative mention. Spam is often short but a short post is not always spam. If an off-topic post is of any length then it is not considered "spam" but is just off-topic. If really off-topic it can be split from the thread.

- Double-posting is not recommended but is not against the rules. In normal threads it should instead just be an edit, but in some very active threads an edit would not always be noticed. If a thread is active to the point where someone will post in the period of time required for an edit, just post again instead. This will make your addition more noticable. Anything more than a double-post, however, is subject to be edited by a moderator if deemed necessary.

Also, don't be afraid to use the Mod Appeal Board. If a post was wrongly moved or deleted another moderator is likely to fix it for you, and unless you post your concern there nothing will probably be done.
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Posted 12 August 2004 - 08:43 PM

It can't happen with the existing factions here.

*NOT INTENDED TO START A CONFLICT OR DEBATE*

Everyone knows that Killer and Crescens will try to shut down Serpharimon. Silverspy won't be happy and may abuse powers. Bigbro now has modship and could get angry with Silver.

The factions keeps things from functioning normally and people think modship is a high rank, which it isn't. It is a responsibility that always gets abused and a post telling the mods to stop won't solve it.
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Posted 12 August 2004 - 08:56 PM

I agree with Base on some things, if the Mods wanna be nicer with members then they have to sort they're differences with each other first...

This post has been edited by Echliurn: 12 August 2004 - 08:57 PM


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Posted 12 August 2004 - 09:04 PM

What we need is a leader of the moderator team. Then, after that, anyone who is not excercising the proper actions as a moderator will be put under review to see if they keep their position...

I keep bugging Csp' about it. biglaugh.gif
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Posted 12 August 2004 - 09:21 PM

Base, we're trying to work on that. Everything is improving whether or not some wish to admit it, and as long as everyone is down on everything we won't improve. This includes frequent mention of previous situations, these are dying down and I really hope some don't take this the wrong way.

Not coming down on your post (it's a good point), it's just that whenever something like this is mentioned these previous conflicts are always brought up and considered a roadblock. These situations cannot end instantly, they take time but they are improving. The more we (SeeD as a whole) concentrate on them the more they will hinder with the clan as was proven, this is the big problem of the past months (and this is why the factions formed in the first place). A conflict comes up and everyone has to become involved, which is not really the case however it frequently ended up like this. Now that is not the case, we're trying to end the situations and so far they have been improving.

If any recent situations happened with them please let me know so they can be handled, but please don't make generalizations because everything that at least I know that happened with them happened a while ago.
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Posted 12 August 2004 - 09:22 PM

QUOTE (Baseballl @ Aug 12 2004, 04:43 PM)
Everyone knows that Killer and Crescens will try to shut down Serpharimon. Silverspy won't be happy and may abuse powers. Bigbro now has modship and could get angry with Silver.

If you didn't want to strat a conflict or debate, you shouldn't have lied. Just because I don't like someone does not mean I try to shut him down. So, please, stop the accusations.
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- Double-posting is not recommended but is not against the rules. In normal threads it should instead just be an edit, but in some very active threads an edit would not always be noticed. If a thread is active to the point where someone will post in the period of time required for an edit, just post again instead. This will make your addition more noticable. Anything more than a double-post, however, is subject to be edited by a moderator if deemed necessary.


Double posting is sometimes necessary. For example, in a thread which has been inactive for a little while, and the last poster wants to add something new to the thread, an edit won't be noticed, so a double post would be excused. However, double posting just to say your Runescape name in Market, after posting an offer to buy or sell something, should not be excused.
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Posted 12 August 2004 - 09:22 PM

*pokepoke* KC and Serph are bugginmg eachotehr about transformers now biglaugh.gif
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Posted 12 August 2004 - 09:28 PM

Cspace has made some very good points there. Some of us ol' mods can sometimes be big tightwad pain in the... faces. bluetongue.gif For a while, a few of us have kind of been going for the rules as opposed to just making these boards a better place.

*Deep voice*

BUT NO LONGER! biglaugh.gif I hereby pledge (or whatever) that from hereon I'll be a goooood moddy mod grnwink.gif

Okay, out of crazy Hyper mode, I'll just basically work towards helping and making these boards a better place, as opposed to just being under the mandate of the list O' rules.

Also, to XZ's idea...

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What we need is a leader of the moderator team. Then, after that, anyone who is not excercising the proper actions as a moderator will be put under review to see if they keep their position...

I keep bugging Csp' about it. biglaugh.gif


An interesting point, though it kind of makes it seem like more of a dictator over mods, there only for punishing and keeping a close eye. I think that maybe, after a few months, Cspace could decide between maybe 1-3 mods that he thinks basically shows that they use their mod powers correctly and for the right purposes, for the best. Then, those people could pretty much just be said to be, like, an example for everyone to follow. A good example would probably be you, XZ, or Star or Dragonman, to name a few. People who use their mod powers, not just to follow the rules, but to help others and make these boards a better place.

Of course, they could also report others for certain actions, blah blah blah, and, whatever, maybe they become Global Mods, whatever, who knows. Point is, just making revisions to your idea coolgleamA.gif
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Posted 12 August 2004 - 10:32 PM

That thing was just to take care of bad mods.. but the full functions are...

Picking the moderator team
Dealing with moderators
Promoting Moderators
Picking forums for Moderators...

However, I'd liek the mod team to be completely redone...

4 S-Mods, 1 Mod-God (bluetongue.gif) And enough mods that every mod has 6 forums to their name. No more.
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Posted 12 August 2004 - 10:49 PM

Let me guess, Zolon wants to be the god??

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 11:56 PM

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 11:59 PM

*Plonged*
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Posted 13 August 2004 - 12:00 AM

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 12:03 AM

Nah, Base was just using some sarcastic humor.

AHHH SARCASM!

Its Zolon's kryptonite lol
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Posted 13 August 2004 - 12:07 AM

QUOTE (Baseballl @ Aug 12 2004, 05:49 PM)
Let me guess, Zolon wants to be the god??

Nothing new Whatever_anim.gif

Actually no. Zolon was talking to me about it and I believe recommended others for the position, including the SMods as well. It is a good idea with the hierarchy (possibly increased GMod powers), with the small exception that they will not be able to choose mods (they are like webmasters and have to be chosen likewise, other positions can be in others' hands but moderators are different).

I'm sorry but there is absolutely no good intent with what you or Muler (Justshifl) just said. It is borderline negative harassment/sarcasm. If anything else is posted along those lines I'm sorry but I will have to enforce what was already set as the rules for the board. Don't take that wrongly, I am not trying to get anyone, but this thread is quickly deteriorating and I'm afraid that some will be hurt.
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