[Dragonman]

I was thinking that for now on if someone think someone should be banned, they should send it to SeeD Support instead of posting in on the forums. It juststarts more conflicts and increases the severity of the problem and peoples' punishments, as you can see in GD (this is against anyone, just suggesting this based on what happened so that it, well, doesn't happen again).

The SeeD Support Staff can see if the person is 'ban worthy,' then PM Cspace to review it and do what needs to be done. Each person involved can be PMed about it (or emailed, dunno if it's possible with the ban, maybe just a heads up).

[Ratty]

Hmm... i think this is a great idea.

It just starts more conflicts and increases the severity of the problem and peoples' punishments

^^yar... too much of that..

[Goto]

Hmm.. might work well. However it does add in a lot of prejudice as to which ones get through. Also opens up the way for members of SeeD Support to abuse it if they're the ones under suspicion, but that doesn't seem at all likely to happen.

I'll just debate against myself by pointing out that if a decision seemed quite biased, it could always be sent onto Cspace directly.

I also think people have got the wrong idea. Nobody for any reason should ever be sending a pm or posting 'you should ban this person'. The most we can do is alert Cspace that rules have been broken, and let him sort it out.

Obviously these things can't be posted in the forums, even in Mod Discussion. However we don't want people to get away with breaking rules, either. It's not a foolproof solution to the problem, but it might be the best that we can come up with short of flooding Cspace with minor things. Just one question though, how many people have access to the SeeD Support account?

[Dragonman]

A couple super mods make up the SeeD Support Staff. The only ones I know of are myself, Star, and Hyper since we're the only active ones. If it's a SeeD Support Staff member they can just send it to another staff member separately or directly to Cspace. It's mainly for things where someone knows someone did something wrong. If it's some blind accusation or someone pointing fingers out of anger then SeeD Support can dismiss of it instead there being a big fight in the forums. If it's serious, then SeeD Support can take action if necassary or needed and contact Cspace.

[Goto]

Hmm.. That's good, although it'd be necessary to publish everyone that had access to it, just so people knew who they were sending it to. Your idea does have merit though, I think Cspace is a bit sick of getting stupid PMs asking him to ban people.

EDIT: I see you're already working on a list, hadn't noticed that yet

[alkore]

I dunno but what if they have a fourm, ya kno private where you cant view it but you can post.

[Goto]

Yeah, that'd be another fairly good way of doing things. If there were only a select few members who could view the board, they could then dismiss the pointless claims and save Cspace some work. Still brings up the question of who would be doing the viewing, it'd have to be people with a long history of level-headedness, good judgement and avoiding conflicts. Quite a few of the Smods would fit that description well, I think

[Raktor]

But then again, it has to be very select. Baseballl, for example, moderates SeeD support. I know recently there might have been a few ban requests, and if he receives them on SeeD support, thye wouldn't be passed on etc.

Also, ban requests to Cspace sometimes do work

[Goto]

Biggy, demanding Cspace to ban people usually has the opposite effect, it makes him think others are out to make them look bad, so he won't do anything (and is quite right in reacting that way, in many circumstances). All people can really do is draw his attention to what is happening, and let him decide for himself what should happen.

Also, please don't bring up individual people. That situation is over, and if I were Base I wouldn't want people bringing it up .

As for the select-ness of the account, that is something I was getting a bit worried over. Now I think about it I really like Alkore's idea. Set only Cspace and a few people as being able to view it, but anybody able to post there. Cspace's trusted few can then look over them, edit the title of those that don't need action taken, PM the member if they need more details, or pass it on to Cspace. Rather than using an existing account for something new, this would give more control over who has access to it.

[Ratty]

Now I think about it I really like Alkore's idea. Set only Cspace and a few people as being able to view it, but anybody able to post there. Cspace's trusted few can then look over them, edit the title of those that don't need action taken, PM the member if they need more details, or pass it on to Cspace. Rather than using an existing account for something new, this would give more control over who has access to it.

Yeah, that sounds like a good idea