[Shadowdancer]

Unreal...this clan utterly amazes me.

Uhhh... is that good or bad?

Bad.

[Cspace]

Can anyone answer these simple questions?

Exactly how does a revived topic hurt anyone if it is not spam (and what if it is for that matter)? If members were not allowed to post in "dead" topics there would either be a rule about it or I would periodically use the nifty "delete all posted after this date" option to clean them out.

Can anyone say "unnecessary restrictions"? According to Webster's Dictionary, "forums" means "a public meeting place for open discussion". I don't see what's open if the only applicable topics are those which are recent or not "annoying" to anyone. Members shouldn't have unnecessary restrictions when expressing their views or personalities (especially just because a few consider it slightly annoying to see a light or entertaining topic here and there)... Unless harmful shouldn't they be allowed to post what they want? Can't we afford a little comic relief now and then?

WHY do we need to narrow everyone down to what's new instead of leave everything open? If someone wants to look back at old topics, it is open for them. If someone wants to continue a discussion or post about an already addressed topic, do they need to create practically a copy of an old thread for it to be new? No, they are allowed to reply, even if it is over two years old I don't see why it would matter. Even if it is a reply to get some laughs or something, why do we need to chastise them for it? Can't anyone have some fun anymore?

Why can't the forums be free and open within reason? In other words, unless a topic is harmful, why must we crack down on it? If we do that we are only limiting freedom, what is gained with that?

Come on guys, these forums are here not only for serious discussions or debates, but fun as well. Why can't you let members have fun? If a reply is completely unrelated to a topic, personally I don't see why the date would matter, but I also don't see why it requires so much mention as to make an issue out of it...

I mean, if it were against the rules and such a bad thing, tell me and I'll suspend Base, MoS, Goto, Star, Rylkan, myself, and anyone else who revived topics for a bit. I will suspend myself for the longest time because during the past few weeks I probably revived at least 15 threads, 90% of my replies could be considered "spam" or pointless. While, from that little bit of reviving many had some fun with them. According to some "fun" can only be had within enforced bounds, so we had better stop lightening the atmosphere or giving new life to old happenings. If no one else can do it, I sure as heck can't, and neither can those listed above who had a little fun last Sunday and a couple days before.

I'm sorry, I can't believe how uptight a few members are. I understand with really pointless posts in general, but why we single out anything "old" is beyond me...

[Ferret Overlord]

I don't have any problem with it as long as the post makes sense.

I don't like it when some thread about how you beat different mario bosses is revived with a post saying, " Uh how do you beat this boss?", and the boss has been covered. Basically, then I just consider it a double offense, for repeating a question, meaning he obviously didn't read over the whole topic, and for reviving for no reason.

[Cspace]

then I just consider it a double offense, for repeating a question, meaning he obviously didn't read over the whole topic

That's not recommended (it can be handled by a mod), but is it an "offence"? It's easy to miss something, maybe someone is in a hurry, or anything else, and it is worth coming down on someone about? That post would hurt no one, it takes up one spot of 25 threads which is continuously scrolling as new things are posted. It's still enough of a problem to be considered an "offence"? I think we're all guilty then at some time or another...

and for reviving for no reason.

Obviously the one who replied had a reason if he did it. Do we need to determine what is worthy of being posted and what is not? Should we filter out the posts which are probably not important to anyone, or consider members wrong when they make a mistake? Unless it is obviously intentional and problematic it is not against the rules, and if it is purely spam it can be moved to Insanity. I'm sure many will have fun with it there.

Last I knew our philosophy was that the member is always right? If that is true, when I have said it in the past I directly meant it to relate to what and where members post, and only if absolutely necessary would require moderation.

[Ferret Overlord]

then I just consider it a double offense, for repeating a question, meaning he obviously didn't read over the whole topic

That's not recommended (it can be handled by a mod), but is it an "offence"? It's easy to miss something, maybe someone is in a hurry, or anything else, and it is worth coming down on someone about? That post would hurt no one, it takes up one spot of 25 threads which is continuously scrolling as new things are posted. It's still enough of a problem to be considered an "offence"? I think we're all guilty then at some time or another...

and for reviving for no reason.

Obviously the one who replied had a reason if he did it. Do we need to determine what is worthy of being posted and what is not? Should we filter out the posts which are probably not important to anyone, or consider members wrong when they make a mistake? Unless it is obviously intentional and problematic it is not against the rules, and if it is purely spam it can be moved to Insanity. I'm sure many will have fun with it there.

Last I knew our philosophy was that the member is always right? If that is true, when I have said it in the past I directly meant it to relate to what and where members post, and only if absolutely necessary would require moderation.

I don't mean that I would have banned anyone or warned them if I could. I meant that I would hold it against them...

Okay... I keep finding mistakes in my posts, realizing I'm wrong after I was thinking I was right and wrong and... I'm gonna go to the insanity board, okay?

This post has been edited by Ferret Overlord: 19 September 2004 - 06:08 AM

[Cspace]

then I just consider it a double offense, for repeating a question, meaning he obviously didn't read over the whole topic

That's not recommended (it can be handled by a mod), but is it an "offence"? It's easy to miss something, maybe someone is in a hurry, or anything else, and it is worth coming down on someone about? That post would hurt no one, it takes up one spot of 25 threads which is continuously scrolling as new things are posted. It's still enough of a problem to be considered an "offence"? I think we're all guilty then at some time or another...

and for reviving for no reason.

Obviously the one who replied had a reason if he did it. Do we need to determine what is worthy of being posted and what is not? Should we filter out the posts which are probably not important to anyone, or consider members wrong when they make a mistake? Unless it is obviously intentional and problematic it is not against the rules, and if it is purely spam it can be moved to Insanity. I'm sure many will have fun with it there.

Last I knew our philosophy was that the member is always right? If that is true, when I have said it in the past I directly meant it to relate to what and where members post, and only if absolutely necessary would require moderation.

I don't mean that I would have banned anyone or warned them if I could. I meant that I would hold it against them...

Okay... I keep finding mistakes in my posts, realizing I'm wrong after I was thinking I was right and wrong and... I'm gonna go to the insanity board, okay?

No, no, you didn't say anything along those lines! I was just kinda doing a little commentary, nothing really about what you said other than your comments brought about my topics. No, lol, I'm not saying that you're wrong, I'm purposely blowing things up to make my point a little easier for some to see. Also joking somewhat here and there, nothing to be taken too seriously.

[Ferret Overlord]

My brain...Ow.

[Cspace]

My brain...Ow.

You're right, I'm going to bed. My head hurts too, hehe, maybe I should get to bed before 2:30 sometimes...

[Shadowdancer]

Cspace, this thread was about how you shouldn't revive dead topics to begin with. Then, Star Jedi bumps it up for no reason at all.

What is the point? "Comic relief" you say? Shall I spam every forum I find then? I doubt you or anyone else would appreciate it much.

[Bodom]

People where complaining about people reviving so people started doing a "sunday revival" where they revived old topics... i think thats why it started anyway.

[vietpryde]

Cspace, this thread was about how you shouldn't revive dead topics to begin with.  Then, Star Jedi bumps it up for no reason at all.

What is the point?  "Comic relief" you say?  Shall I spam every forum I find then?  I doubt you or anyone else would appreciate it much.

Actually I think Cspace is the one who started sunday revivals....

[obiwan22]

Cspace, this thread was about how you shouldn't revive dead topics to begin with.  Then, Star Jedi bumps it up for no reason at all.

What is the point?  "Comic relief" you say?  Shall I spam every forum I find then?  I doubt you or anyone else would appreciate it much.

Actually I think Cspace is the one who started sunday revivals....

Yeah, it was Cspace. After all those conflicts and the banishment of 3 members or whatever it was. He just wanted to cheer things up a bit.


Personally, I find it a bit annoying, but, you cant have things your way everytime.

[Master Of Stuff]

Cspace, this thread was about how you shouldn't revive dead topics to begin with.  Then, Star Jedi bumps it up for no reason at all.

I find this quite funny actually... the person who pays money for this site is trying to lighten the mood by starting the trend of Sunday Revivals... yet he is being indirectly reprimanded... SD, you should know about this: you pay money for a site, you put in work, it should be how you like it and everyone else should only make suggestions, not criticism.

and it is also interesting in the choice of logic here...

What is the point?  "Comic relief" you say?  Shall I spam every forum I find then?  I doubt you or anyone else would appreciate it much.

You sound like this was a sudden occurance... All of the sudden, old topics were revived... looking at your joined date ( Joined: 27-June 04 ) would show me that you have been here for most if not all of the revivals. Ever since it started, it hasn't been abused. Everyone had FUN. Why is this such a problem now?

I agree with you on some points, in this case and in other cases... imo, it's sometimes annoying, it's sometimes nostalgic... This was a strange coincidence... if this was the first time, I might agree... but you were nowhere the last number of times, and those could be found just as easily as this thread. So, this isn't new, so I do not agree.

[Star Jedi]

Calm down, guys That's what a lot have been trying to say recently. When I revived this, I never wanted anyone to be annoyed, or start a fight over it. I never expected it, either. A lot found it funny; I had some IMing me 'playfully' bapping me for reviving a topic. Yes, I had the fact that the topic was about not reviving topics in mind.. Though, I just thought that would make everything a bit more ironic, hehe.

Can you blame me for that? Seeing someone revive a topic just makes the forums seem less uptight, in my eyes. Maybe I'm trying to make a point? Not really, though I know for a fact that many have enjoyment in things like these. Being 'SeeDish' is a unique thing I call "Being some percent 'Insane'" (Hehe..Well, IMO) I like to see that quality, because I believe it makes SeeD more unique than a lot of other clans I visit

Though, I could stop, because the last thing I would ever want to do is upset anyone.

[Goto]

I wholeheartedly agree with Star. The thing that draws many of us back here is the zany (hehe, not often you get a chance to use that word legitimately) atmosphere. I thought it was hilarious that she revived this topic, and I've been enjoying most of the other revivals too. Sure they're annoying occasionally when you're trying to read the new posts, but they're fun and they often give you a sense for the old SeeD.

Shadow, I think you should loosen up a bit. You're not getting the most of the clan if you can't enjoy a good joke or three, and I can't remember seeing you post anything non-serious off the top of my head... ever.