[Kimojuno]

1.  It is disgusting.

2.  It is possibly breaking forum rules.

3.  If my parents saw it, I could be denied computer rights.

4.  He had it as a sig and avatar which is highly unecessary.

5.  It carries the same concept as me posting 2 topless girls making out.

-Supernova

Just to note:

I agree because: 1) Like I said some may; however lets look at 2-5 2) It may be 3) Very true could see it, like you're viewing porn, you know? 4) Yes he did 5) I'd have to agree on this.

-- I won't reply for a bit not trying to spam this topic ((too much)) --

~ Kimojuno

[grandrial]

1. Just because it disgusts a few people does not mean its disguisting I on the other hand thinks its quite creative and different.
2. - Don't know about forum rules.
3. - Thats your problem no one elses
4. He used to but it has now changed into one small scrolling picture in his sig.
5. Yes it does carry the same concept however men do not have breasts on their chest so therefore it is no offense to anyone. It is O.K for the t.v people to have topless men before the watershed so why can't a forum.
6. It scrolls now so you must have a pretty small screen.

[grandrial]

[quote=Kimojuno,Dec 19 2004, 10:26 PM]

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PS: And no I don't find it tottally disguesting; however I understand how some may.

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I see what you mean but its nothing to complain about.

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This post has been edited by grandrial: 19 December 2004 - 10:38 PM

[Kowboy]

1. Just because it disgusts a few people does not mean its disguisting I on the other hand thinks its quite creative and different.
2. - Don't know about forum rules.
3. - Thats your problem no one elses
4. He used to but it has now changed into one small scrolling picture in his sig.
5. Yes it does carry the same concept however men do not have breasts on their chest so therefore it is no offense to anyone. It is O.K for the t.v people to have topless men before the watershed so why can't a forum.
6. It scrolls now so you must have a pretty small screen.

1. The majority of people posted said it was disgusting; I think you and Alex are the only ones in the same boat on this issue.
2. Whatever...
3. Problems have solutions and this is it; If I were to be banned, I would hold him responsible.
4. See my last post on how the concepts are the same and refer to next line.
5. Man boobs offend me. I have seen a girls rear end on TV; the laws become a little more laxidasiale (sp?) after certain times. And what your saying is if its on TV you can post it.
6. Making fun of my monitor, eh?
7. Your from England? I believe the US has different laws than England.

This post has been edited by Supernova: 19 December 2004 - 10:39 PM

[grandrial]

I see what you mean however I do not think it is a reason to take it out of someones signature because the majority of people that have posted in this post find it untoward and disgusting. Me, Echi and Alex have no problem with it. And 3 people find it disgusting so its not the majority we are even. I think his sig should be left alone.
Yes, I am from England but I know your allowed to see a mans chest anytime during the day.

This post has been edited by grandrial: 19 December 2004 - 10:42 PM

[JGJTan]

Please, before you guys keep on arguing about this, just let several mods discuss this topic.

This could get quite out of hand if you guys keep on fighting so please just wait for a group of mods to handle it.

[Bodom]

Oh no a man with no top seriously have you ever been to a football stadium? a skate park? at a park on a hot day?

[grandrial]

But they're not discussing and im angry because hes acting like its really bad when its not and quite frankly I do not see the reason for the topic to have been created in the first place because it is such a contreversial argument that there can never be a victor and that it should have just been left alone.

[Kowboy]

There was already a topic about this in mod discussion; action was never taken because nobody really complained about it. I think it would be best to get rid of it.

-Supernova

[Bodom]

But anyway seeing a girls "rear end" on tv and worrying (dunno sounded like you thought it was a terrible thing) and having a topless person in a picture? if you're over the age of 15 and complaining about something as petty as that...

I understand if you're young though

[grandrial]

[Kowboy]

16 in less than 6 months as a matter of fact.

[Bodom]

so why're you so offended by two topless dudes and a "rear end"

[grandrial]

Oh good question! Why are you offended? most people nearly 16 don't really care about such things and won't let it interupt their normal lifes. I dont mind seeing a girls bottom on t.v does any 15-16 year old in their right mind actually mind seeing a bare bottom on t.v?

[CongressJon]

Guys, a few facts.

• I seem to recall Dark Alex saying that he was leaving SeeD for another clan. If this is the case, there isn't as much to worry about.
• Technically, in the case of pornography, this isn't quite there. It's about borderline. Even if the men were naked, only their chests are showing. Essentially, the biggest factor in the picture is the fact that it respresents homosexuals.
• The biggest factor is whether people consider it offensive or not. If you think that it's ugly, that it's innapropriate, that kids 12 and under or whatever should see this kind of stuff, then I'd really like to know who. It might put an end to the situation.

All in all, there are two positions: Neutral and Against. There is no "for" position. There is no positive influence for the picture. However, I think this should be decided by vote. To increase popularity on the topic, I will create a poll in GD on this subject about everyone's positions. By certain decisions, we'll see if it'll be removed.