
United States Gay Marrige Ban
#51
Posted 11 April 2005 - 08:56 PM
"Being gay is worthless. They cant reproduce with the same sex. If the whole word turn gay there would be no babies=world won't grow. I just think that most homosexuals are teenagers because they don't have a g/f or cant get one. After that they might turn bi or hetero."
I still stand by that. I think worthless wasnt a good word. I would think it would be UnProductive. I mean gays are ignoring the cycle of life. I mean the world is created for the purpose of mating besides asexual reproduction and i dont see humans doing asexual reproduction.
My point is it might give happiness but it is ignoring the ways of life and science.
I still stand by that. I think worthless wasnt a good word. I would think it would be UnProductive. I mean gays are ignoring the cycle of life. I mean the world is created for the purpose of mating besides asexual reproduction and i dont see humans doing asexual reproduction.
My point is it might give happiness but it is ignoring the ways of life and science.
This post has been edited by Doji Jiro: 11 April 2005 - 08:56 PM

#52
Posted 11 April 2005 - 09:44 PM
QUOTE(Traver @ Apr 11 2005, 10:05 AM)
QUOTE(Mobster101 @ Apr 11 2005, 04:53 PM)
yeah alex you are. If you are straeight than you: put people in the world, and you are doing what MOST religeons say is right. If your gay well yyour saying, "i want to be happy so F*ck what a religeon says, and f*ck not doing my part wich happens to be laid out in allmost EVERY religeon wich is "populate the world".
And btw i'm not gonna talk abou the "is wanting to go to heaven selfish?" thing.
The world has given every1 a completely messed up view. the world says to do whatever you want, as long as your happy nothing else maters. f*ck your family f*ck your religeon. as long as your happy everything is fine...and dude is that view messed up. And maybe i am selfish if i want to have sex with any weomen i meet (d@mn puberty!). Ok maybe i am very selfish for wanting that and not just one weomen for my whole life...but thats my problem. And by the way this whole faction is turning gay...thats weird....
And btw i'm not gonna talk abou the "is wanting to go to heaven selfish?" thing.
The world has given every1 a completely messed up view. the world says to do whatever you want, as long as your happy nothing else maters. f*ck your family f*ck your religeon. as long as your happy everything is fine...and dude is that view messed up. And maybe i am selfish if i want to have sex with any weomen i meet (d@mn puberty!). Ok maybe i am very selfish for wanting that and not just one weomen for my whole life...but thats my problem. And by the way this whole faction is turning gay...thats weird....
As I already stated, you're simply saying every one who doesn't have babies are selfish, which I really can't see the logic in, care to elaborate?
And for the "is wanting to go to heaven selfish" thing, that just proves you can't bak up your arguments, leaving them pretty useless. Other than that, I have never heard of any religion saying that the point of life is to populate the world...
1: i'm saying other than being happy (even if its wrong) being gay has NO Productiveness (if thats a word). So it has to be selfish because i mean what else could it be?? sure you might say love has no boundries but if the country you live in says its wrong allmost every religeon thinks its wrong and Most nongay people think its wrong, and you say "f*ck them!" then you are selfish. and the reason i'm not commenting on the "is wanting to go to heaven selfish?" thing is your not draging me into another reliegious descussion traver. i would no problem with after all, you can be a nice guy (or girl don't know what you are) and i should accept your belifes. but your being an a55 to me in everything i post in.
QUOTE(Echiwechi @ Apr 11 2005, 01:41 PM)
A guy loving a guy isnt selfish, its doing what the person wants and not what some book or magical spirit is telling him to do.
Wanting to have sex with every girl you see and having tons of women, is selfish
Wanting to have sex with every girl you see and having tons of women, is selfish
yeah, i've allready said that wanting to have sex with every girl i see is selfish..duh!
QUOTE(Spikeout @ Apr 11 2005, 01:53 PM)
No its not....you want people to belive in what you belive in. its just that you would like people to fowwlow what you follow.
Cliff=Bumgardner
#54
Posted 11 April 2005 - 09:58 PM
Well, my personal values that I have grown up knowing say (Not a written code, you know what I mean) that man+woman=marraige. These values are a reflection of the subculture of the United States I am in and by my family's values as well. Let me put this forth first, my family is Christian and I am too. Most of the people who aren't Christians in my area believe that homosexuality is wrong. Marraige of homosexuals is a civil matter, as the issue of homosexuality itself is more of a personal and I suppose "spiritual" matter. This debate is about the marraige of gays, not homosexuality. I will get back to that later.
The official marraige of gay and lesbian couples in the U.S. is WRONG. Yes, I am pro-Bush, as is most of the American public. One cannot argue that as Bush has been reelected. In my opinion only, I see no major problem with gays being together. The problem I have is the "gay rights movement". The underlying point of this movement is to ultimately convince Congress to pass a bill allowing marraige of gay and lesbian couples. The sanctity of marraige is an important thing. Man and woman together is the definition of "marraige" and has been since the beginning of time. I hope that the world will make sure that we keep it that way.
The sexual preference of a man desiring a man or a woman desiring a woman is wrong*. The Bible plainly tells us that homosexuals WILL go to hell. Now, I don't want this to lead to a religious discussion, that is not the point. But let me add this, Scripture says in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV) "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God." This is not a proclamation of death and woe to all unbelievers, I don't believe in that. I am not some "Christian Crusader" either. Merely giving the point of what Paul wrote about the eternal destiny of homosexuals who don't change their ways. Thank you for reading this, I'm sure I have my point across in a more mature way.
*-I made a comment in my previous ramble about "hot lesbos are ok". I truly don't think that way. I made that comment to "lighten everyone up" after my harsh soapbox speech.
The official marraige of gay and lesbian couples in the U.S. is WRONG. Yes, I am pro-Bush, as is most of the American public. One cannot argue that as Bush has been reelected. In my opinion only, I see no major problem with gays being together. The problem I have is the "gay rights movement". The underlying point of this movement is to ultimately convince Congress to pass a bill allowing marraige of gay and lesbian couples. The sanctity of marraige is an important thing. Man and woman together is the definition of "marraige" and has been since the beginning of time. I hope that the world will make sure that we keep it that way.
The sexual preference of a man desiring a man or a woman desiring a woman is wrong*. The Bible plainly tells us that homosexuals WILL go to hell. Now, I don't want this to lead to a religious discussion, that is not the point. But let me add this, Scripture says in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV) "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God." This is not a proclamation of death and woe to all unbelievers, I don't believe in that. I am not some "Christian Crusader" either. Merely giving the point of what Paul wrote about the eternal destiny of homosexuals who don't change their ways. Thank you for reading this, I'm sure I have my point across in a more mature way.
*-I made a comment in my previous ramble about "hot lesbos are ok". I truly don't think that way. I made that comment to "lighten everyone up" after my harsh soapbox speech.
This post has been edited by Nighthawk551: 11 April 2005 - 10:02 PM
#58
Posted 11 April 2005 - 10:02 PM
He said most of the American people, that certainly isn't most of them.
Anyways, my opinion on this is that they shouldn'e be able to get married under law. It is in fact in a civil union and we can keep it at that. They can't have children, which means they don't continue society or their family name. They should still be able to live as a couple, but marriage benefits should not be given to either.
Anyways, my opinion on this is that they shouldn'e be able to get married under law. It is in fact in a civil union and we can keep it at that. They can't have children, which means they don't continue society or their family name. They should still be able to live as a couple, but marriage benefits should not be given to either.
Alex