[ticktockclok]

This is happening here in IL, is that where you live?

[Spikeout]

its were i live

[Cspace]

Aren't the ESRB ratings technically supposed to prevent minors from getting mature games alone? It may be different elsewhere, but last I knew an adult has to be with a minor in order for him/her to buy a mature game in a store.

I don't see what the deal is with forcing sealed off sections for these games, other than forcing all the game stores to rearrange.

And what about Best Buy and similar stores? I don't see how they can have a section sealed off just for these games, and if they make a law wouldn't those stores apply as well, as would other electronics stores which aren't exactly devoted to games? To my understanding this would be an unnecessary hassle.

[Spikeout]

Aren't the ESRB ratings technically supposed to prevent minors from getting mature games alone?  It may be different elsewhere, but last I knew an adult has to be with a minor in order for him/her to buy a mature game in a store.

yup dats wat we have in IL idk y go thru the trouble of sections tho either.

[Ruckus Fox]

I'm all for it! C'mon, senators, do your stuff!

We have too many violent little children around here swining punches at each other, swearing at the age of six. These "violent games" Are more than likely to have other things too. Like substance abuse. If you put drugs and alcohol into a game that makes that person look really "cool" and kickass, then serve it to a six year old on a silver platter, hell yeah! They're gonna use drugs and alcohol at near that age too! Don't doubt it, it -is- the truth.

---Ruckus the Rogue

[Raktor]

You have your ESRB ratings, we have our lovely ratings. Your 17+'s are only 15+'s over here.

Btw, a fake ID will get you in, anyway.

We have too many violent little children around here swining punches at each other, swearing at the age of six. These "violent games" Are more than likely to have other things too. Like substance abuse. If you put drugs and alcohol into a game that makes that person look really "cool" and kickass, then serve it to a six year old on a silver platter, hell yeah! They're gonna use drugs and alcohol at near that age too! Don't doubt it, it -is- the truth.

I'm not using drugs, and I can't remember seeing alcohol much in video games, but I drink that. I don't walk out onto the street, hop in the car, run down everyone I see, and shoot the ones I miss with an uzi, though.

This post has been edited by Bigbro69: 13 April 2005 - 10:50 PM

[obiwan22]

I'm all for it! C'mon, senators, do your stuff!

We have too many violent little children around here swining punches at each other, swearing at the age of six. These "violent games" Are more than likely to have other things too. Like substance abuse. If you put drugs and alcohol into a game that makes that person look really "cool" and kickass, then serve it to a six year old on a silver platter, hell yeah! They're gonna use drugs and alcohol at near that age too! Don't doubt it, it -is- the truth.

---Ruckus the Rogue

Meh, most kids don't learn that stuff from video games, they learn it from creepy friends of older brothers, and odd people at school.

[Cspace]

Lol, what about TV, movies, the internet, the news, politics, friends, the Vice President, heck, even school... I would like someone to say that the fault for violence is video games, and that violence didn't really exist before the 80's when home consoles became relatively accessible.

Making a sealed off section of every game store would just annoy everyone involved, since legally a store cannot sell a mature game to a minor anyway without an adult with him/her. It is just completely impractical and doesn't achieve anything that is not already in place.

[Final F8]

Yeah, that makes sense... make it so that only people who are old enough to buy guns and other weapons play the violent games.
I don't see the big deal, really. I mean sure, there are games that do cross the line with violence; Manhunt (especially), the GTA series state of emergency are a few of the most violent games I own, and yes, I think that they're too violent for younger kids. But even with the adult rating and if there was a seperate section, kids would still find a way to play them.
I agree with Cspace, it'd be an unnecessary hassle.

[Mobster101]

I think it is a good idea, actually. It makes the parents have the decision to allow you to play it or not.

Dude, the parents have that ayway.

It looks like a good idea. Kids shouldn't be allowed to buy violent games like GTASA and the other game you mentioned. If kids are going to buy M games, they should have a parent or guardian buy them for them. (Show ID, stuff like that.) That's the problem. Games like GTA influence kids to think "If a video game can be made out of it, well it must be OK!" (I've actually had someone say that to me.)

But it's a good idea, and I'm with Base in hoping this will spread to other states.

No, kids that are six shouldn't play gta ( i did though hehehe)

I'm all for it! C'mon, senators, do your stuff!

We have too many violent little children around here swining punches at each other, swearing at the age of six. These "violent games" Are more than likely to have other things too. Like substance abuse. If you put drugs and alcohol into a game that makes that person look really "cool" and kickass, then serve it to a six year old on a silver platter, hell yeah! They're gonna use drugs and alcohol at near that age too! Don't doubt it, it -is- the truth.

---Ruckus the Rogue

Dude, you've got to br pretty ****ed to play a game and go "hey cj did it so i'm gonna steal cars and shoot people! yay!" I mean, come on......
But the whole "new section" tthing is dumb. and thats why it probably won't be passed.

[Final F8]

I'm all for it! C'mon, senators, do your stuff!

We have too many violent little children around here swining punches at each other, swearing at the age of six. These "violent games" Are more than likely to have other things too. Like substance abuse. If you put drugs and alcohol into a game that makes that person look really "cool" and kickass, then serve it to a six year old on a silver platter, hell yeah! They're gonna use drugs and alcohol at near that age too! Don't doubt it, it -is- the truth.

---Ruckus the Rogue

Dude, you've got to br pretty ****ed to play a game and go "hey cj did it so i'm gonna steal cars and shoot people! yay!" I mean, come on......
But the whole "new section" tthing is dumb. and thats why it probably won't be passed.

Though it's a sad fact that there are people out there who are that mentally unsettled that they can be so easily influenced by video games.
However, I don't think creating a separate section for these games will solve the problem. TV & movies will be just as much of as influence, and usually the people that do it are suffering from some sort of depression for certain reasons.
I think America needs to set it's priorities straight. Fix your screwed up gun laws before worrying about video games

[Cspace]

Though it's a sad fact that there are people out there who are that mentally unsettled that they can be so easily influenced by video games.
However, I don't think creating a separate section for these games will solve the problem. TV & movies will be just as much of as influence, and usually the people that do it are suffering from some sort of depression for certain reasons.

After the movie Superman came out some people jumped off roofs and things because they thought they could fly, hehe. As you said there are many influences other than video games, and to blame video games for violence like some people do is kinda naive.

[Mobster101]

Yeah, they should try to ban internet and tv porn. Not video games. I mean to see a video game like say...star fox and say "hey i'm gonna get in a spaceshi and fight evil with my bird friend!" is kinda stupid. I still don't understand how they can release movies like the godfather, goodfella's, and pretty much every other violent movie. And then say "No little billy didn't shoot those people because tom cruis did it, or because were terrible parents, he saw cj in gta do it and killed his grandmother..." Maybe it wouldn't be anything to that extent, but you get my point. In the end it all comes down to parenting, childhood violence is more because of parents and way less of video games.

[Aaron]

It looks like a good idea. Kids shouldn't be allowed to buy violent games like GTASA and the other game you mentioned. If kids are going to buy M games, they should have a parent or guardian buy them for them. (Show ID, stuff like that.) That's the problem. Games like GTA influence kids to think "If a video game can be made out of it, well it must be OK!" (I've actually had someone say that to me.)

But it's a good idea, and I'm with Base in hoping this will spread to other states.

Makes sense. I'd go with that. Hopefully this will keep kids from getting the "wrong idea" about the difference of virtual reality and reality itself.

[obiwan22]

They do have rating on movies and games for a reason.

They aren't kidding when they put mature on games like GTA and Halo 2 for VIOLENCE AND LANGUAGE...If it's rated M, it's gonna have violence and mature language.

Same thing with movies, They're rated R for a reason, or PG-13. At the bottom, it'll say, R, violence, adult language, whatever. They're not kidding...Kids shouldn't watch those films/ play those games if they're not emotionally ready.