[Game Fan7]

not HE started that clan, kilobite started

[Dragonman]

Simply Put Solution: Philmygroin publicly announces (where he needs to) a new purpose for his clan and a neutral relationship with UFF/SeeD, since it appears he wants peace (didn't read every bit of the posts but I believe I got the jist of it).

[dokimos0rg]

Yes, I would accept a new purpose for Undead Anzacs clan except for the fact that it was started based on a war against UFF. Philmygroin continues to seek to recruit from us, that is why he is posting on SeeD Forum.

If Philmygroin wants to start a new direction of peace and to stop agression against UFF, then all he has to do is to change the UA website and go away. But he won't do that. It's doubletalk and lies he brings us.

Let Philmygroin seek peace for real by changing the UA clan website and to stop recruiting from UFF/SeeD. Let him no longer post in the SeeD Forum.

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If Philmygroin cannot change the UA Website, then he is no place to be able to negotiate with us on behalf of UA. If peace is what Phil seeks, he will need to back it up with actions.

As his posts elsewhere have sought war, we will recognize this doubletalk of his and also recognize this invasion of the SeeD Forum being filled with Undead Anzacs' Anti-SeeD propaganda.

Until true reforms are made by Undead Anzacs, it is evident that UA is still at war with us, but that they are only changing their tactics.

As I mentioned before, the best solution for Phil is the dissolving of UA in favor of starting a new clan on a foundation of other than hate. For as long as UA exists, there heritage of hate for UFF remains.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 25 November 2005 - 06:29 PM

[Dragonman]

He said he's been putting a lot of time into building the clan, so changing the purpose of his clan instead of dropping it and starting all over would probably be a more favorable option from his point-of-view.

Until true reforms are made by Undead Anzacs, it is evident that UA is still at war with us, but that they are only changing their tactics.

It doesn't matter what their tactics are, fact is SeeD won't fall and any tactics of theirs is useless unless he's best friends with Bill Gates. So it's either neutrality or we ignore them.

[dokimos0rg]

The whole attraction of the Undead Anzacs clan was that it is a hate clan against UFFs to attract those who may be disgruntled in UFF.

Their clan consists of mostly UFF rebels and they seek more within SeeD, seeking to sow discord amongst brethren here. They employ cowardly methods.

They seek to give those they find perhaps disgruntled in UFF to have the extra boost of hate from themselves to turn on us.

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I will not believe cosmetic changes amongst them while they still wage war on us.

I will believe good intention from the when I see it. I have seen various deceptions before from them.

So long as the Undead Anzacs hang around on SeeD Forum you can know that they are up to continue to practice methods in hopes to bust us up.

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SeeD is a peaceful clan and will continue, yes, but how much abuse will be deemed tolerable.

Again, I call for SeeD police action about this due to the various abuses of UAs here.

UA is still actively seeking to break up our already formed merger with SeeD.

Must we waste our time answering this nonsence from UAs to defend ourselves instead of getting on with more peaceful methods to build the SeeD clan?

Let either the UAs leave peacefully from the SeeD Forum or please let them be banned, but let us be done with them.

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UA have already declared themselves our enemies and are unashamed to use spies and to break forum rules. Their words cannot be trusted as sincere.

SeeD has had its own history of problems with rebels and understands the problems caused by such. SeeD's forum should be respected.

[rebel876]

look we are not noobs! the uda's first job that needs to be done is getting rid of uff then we will recruit much harder. i respect SeeD's military force and it's market. they have a great clan which i do no think should fall. all i seek is vengence and a clan of ppl with the same beliefs as me. i don't hate all uff members infact 3 of them are my friends. i have been given a 2nd chance in the uda and i will use it wisely. and think phil ment that he wanted to have peace not join into another clan, because if we keep fighting like this we will end up with both clans wreched and clans men miss placed on the battle field, but if war must happen to correct what has been done, war will break out.

[dokimos0rg]

United Freedom Fighters Clan has merged with SeeD Clan, therefore, to get rid of UFF, you will also need to get rid of SeeD. That you will not accomplish.

UFF and SeeD stand for the same values and are one clan now. Due to our merger our name is SeeD now and our The United Freedom Fighters Movement continues.

We continue to fight against overlords and those who serve them such as you foolishly do yourself of Philmygroin and Kilobite0.

Rebel876, you can see how we were right about you from the beginning, that you always were a traitor to us. Now you are yet another target if you dare show your face in the wilderness of Runescape.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 25 November 2005 - 09:30 PM

[rebel876]

lol! ill be waiting! i can hit 21 with a r2h and str pot! u think im scared? do you think i care if i die? if i die i'll always come back but even harder than before. dokimos you lied to me and now you'll get what came to you. do you think we hide? you dont even show your face anywhere. i am the best battle plan maker dokimos and you know it. i can kill you without having to run up to you. i can just pop up right in front of you. you are just a scared little noob hiding behind your words. come out to fight, come out to die.

[sashstar]

rebel you are just here to spread fear......in a very bad attempt to spread fear

"i can just pop out i dont have to run" this is runescape.......your gonna havta run....although you can pop away =P

[philmygroin]

rebel you only provoking them to the point they'll actively seek us in the to kill us (if they havent already). now these posts rebel are between me and dokimos and seed admins, as i said before dok i cant change the site kilobite runs and he wont be back till the 5th of december.

[el dingo111]

rebel shut up go post on your own forum

[sashstar]

i dont like being mean but........ Rebel get the heck away from here
nobody in uff likes you!
nobody in uda likes you!
I doubt anyone in seed likes you!
and i doubt that ANYONE likes you!

so why dont you just go off into a lonly little corner stop bothering both clans with your stupid and unconvinsing claims of being a battle master and stop provoking us to attack you...i was getting sick of you on the uff forms and i am sick of you trying to screw up the however slight chance we have of both clans agreeing allowing peace!!

your actions go against everything honourable i know..........despite you rebel i still hope somthing can occur between the two clans soon to inspire peace and stop the constant fighting

-a person without honour is unforgiveable-

[Dragonman]

lol! ill be waiting! i can hit 21 with a r2h and str pot! u think im scared? do you think i care if i die? if i die i'll always come back but even harder than before. dokimos you lied to me and now you'll get what came to you.  do you think we hide? you dont even show your face anywhere. i am the best battle plan maker dokimos and you know it. i can kill you without having to run up to you. i can just pop up right in front of you. you are just a scared little noob hiding behind your words. come out to fight, come out to die.

Yeah, contradicted yourself there. Not only will you come back if you die in the game, but so will all of us, so those threats are meaningless.