[Stealth X1]

Just the kind of reply i'd expect from You.

You probably wernt in UFF.

Well anyway stealth I just noticed that Stealth is in your clan. I didnt want to say it but i guess in order to have peace you gotta prove your honesty.

Stealth x1 has been working as a spy for me for a very long time, He betrayed UFF and told me he didnt want to be in it 3 days before the Big pk trip. I cleaned up for him and took the blame.

Back to the point i dont want to start any troubble whehter it be with your clan or the weakest clan in the world. You dont have to reply so abruptly like that, you dont even know me!

Anyway tell dokimos when he gets on that i need to talk to him please.

LoL sorry Kilo, but I talked to Doki first and I never said I was in your clan, and what i ment when i talked 2 doki is i asked permission to be a "double agent", also I NEVER said I was with you, but i did say i understand your reasons and a few were true, never with you though, UFF 4 ever, but i did talk 2 doki long be 4 i ever talked 2 u about UDA, also if u noticed the whole time all i did was ask for a list of who was UFF that had joined UDA, if u noticed every 1 u told me was kicked from our UFF forums, THINK i was never with you sorry bud lol but i do still hope we can remain friends lol

EDIT- fixed some grammer added some coma's

This post has been edited by Stealth X1: 12 December 2005 - 07:34 AM

[Stealth X1]

lol stealth a traitor.....  , i've had same doubts bout him but i never thought he was a spy for the uda , i thought maybe he was either a bit on the bad side of life , or he had a petty grudge against ssome1 but never a traitor....


        but atleast now hes known for who he truly is ..... but i must say kilobite uve been negotiating peace for weeks , and ud been saying uve pulled out all spies and all but now we find out u have yet another spy ..... so how can we
( uff/seed ) ever trust u , u say u wnt peace man but things are not by words but by actions , and well ur actions totally disprove ur wrds

Nope read my last post, but anyway I am with UFF again, more or less with SeeD i guess ounce again I talked to doki and only got information from him and never ounce told Kilo anything and only recived information I got many names from him and they all were kicked from UFF forums

[buckbeak14]

kk soz , for mistunderstnding but it was a post at the spur of the mmnt

[dokimos0rg]

United Freedom Fighters acknowledges the changes on Undead Anzacs site. Peace is acceptable and accepted now. About time!

* * *

Let it be understood that UFF is a continuing Runescape movement in rejection of clan overlording and having an open door for all levels to join in clanning. This movement continues.

My own role in all this was never to be the boss, as you know. What I have done is guided the UFF Clan to more fully develop as a movement. Now we have the backing to stand as such.

It does not matter if this movement is in several clans. We can be united together standing for the freedom of Runescape. In fact, now more than ever, we have a stronger platform for freedom amongst us.

* * *

Previously suffered infrastructure difficulties of UFF are not to the fault of Kilobite0 nor others. UFF was simply growing too fast for its old infrastructure to keep up with. Therefore, no one is to be blamed for changes that needed to be made.

* * *

With the animosity put behind us, we can all move forward together now. Those who have previously been confirmed UFFs may post here actively. It does not matter if UFFs are also in other clans now as our methods have been adjusted to accomodate for movement growth.

I am glad we can work together now and maintain our mutual friendships.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 12 December 2005 - 07:14 PM

[kilobite0]

well weve been asking for peace for ages now oh yea and whats all this stuff about you guys wanting to pk us?

[buckbeak14]

pk u ? were was tht said ?

[dokimos0rg]

You were reading old posts regarding the PKing. The PK list post has been updated. UFF homepage mentions UDA as allies to UFF Movement.

I personally never started this conflict nor maintained it, that was Kilobite0's own decision and unpopular choice.

UDAs were asking for peace, yes, but Kilobite0 previously wouldn't have it as he wouldn't drop the stance against UFF on the UDA website. But Kilobite0 has changed his attitude about this all now.

* * *

What? Was I to say UDA wanted peace with UFF when at the time it posted war against us? Get real!

* * *

Kilobite0 needed to be the one willing to make peace on behalf of UDA since he controlled the UDA website. I was always willing to make peace.

Don't fault me if Kilobite0 chose to take so long to come around to make changes he needed to do himself.

For Kilobite0 to create his own clan as an anti-clan against UFF was of bad form. Now that he has come to his sences, I hope he has learned from the error of his ways.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 13 December 2005 - 05:37 PM

[Chaz P K]

UDA is a cool name. we should have a page for them

[Stealth X1]

Kilo, my point is you left our clan to start an Anti-UFF clan, you insult us and put us down. You act as though all you wanted was war, and then you dont have one. I think some of my old BlackOps training kicked in because if you think about it the reason you never offically went to war with us is because of me, annyway the fighting spirit and common sense I have now does not accept your alliance. Although only the "official" leaders can make decisions in this clan I do not accept this Alliance, and if we are allied I still will not like your clan. Your clans only means of existance was to undermine and destroy UFF in war, now you want to allie us, I would honestly find this as an insult and you would lose what respect I have for you, I will repect you as our enemie but not our allie, sorry man but that just the way I see it.

[dokimos0rg]

I have no problem having peace with UDA so long as UDA drops its anti-UFF stance as it has.

As UFF, in SeeD, is now open to clanning in other non-enemy clans, the animosity between clans is dropped.

UFF cannot make a clan alliance as that would be done by SeeD admins. UFF as a movement acknowledges UDAs own stance for alliance and merely responds accordingly.

* * *
The conflict was due to the actions of Kilobite0, not due to UFF's actions, nor by my own actions.
* * *

How Kilobite0 accounts for his actions or refuses to give account is another matter.

Yes, let us "give him a second chance", as some like to say, and see the good will and actions of Kilobite0 continue now, since he has shown that he is no longer going to refuse the desires of peace that his clanmembers desire.

Let us see that Kilobite0 is going to give up deceitful practices both of himself and of others that he desires to lead. Let him also actively discourage the undermining and deceitful methods as had been common in the UDA he started.

Yes! Let us give Kilobite0 the opportunity to show that he has given up on anti-clanning against his friends and show a good example of leadership now.

Kilobite0 gets the second chance! I look forward to see what he will do given this second chance.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 13 December 2005 - 08:41 PM

[kilobite0]

I left UFF, i neva started an anti UFF wateva thingy.When people followed me i did not try and dictate anyone they followed for their own reasons at least dokimos understands me.

[ngok10]

Well, I never thought i'd say this but I also want to make peace with UDA. Well, I also offer my hand in friendship. But if you still try to pk me in the wildy. I will have no choice that to kick ur butt. Really sorry man...

[dokimos0rg]

Kilobite0, clearly you sought to divide UFF by your previous actions. You posted revenge against UFF. You incited others to go away from UFF to your UDA instead.

Honestly, you are not innocent about this. Stop pretending. We're not going to pretend you didn't do what you did, lest we forget. But apparently you have changed your actions lately.

Kilobite0, you were anti-clanning against UFF as well witnessed and attested to. Glad your changing your mind now to give up on your private war against UFF now.

Yes, players followed your "rebellion" as you called it because they wanted to. I agree that you did not force them but your ego was showing proudly about leading others away as you did. I continually warned UFFs against such who would do this.

Howbeit, many did not wish for the division you set it, which left matters badly for some players who did not wish us all to be divided. They went with you yet not desiring to leave but for you to come around to reunite with us.

But we accept your move toward peace now, which really is UDA members actions that prompted you, which is good and acceptable.

I hope you will continue this new path of yours and seek mutual building up instead of seeking to tear us down.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 14 December 2005 - 03:28 PM

[Stealth X1]

well Doki im going to listen to you, Peace it is...

[danbilly90]

wow, ive been away from all this drama ive thought on some things. Most of these people are young kids....so why aruge with them? they base status on level instead of true leadership. So why have the silly drama... the poor SeeD mods have to deal with alot of whiny kids not getting their way now lol. the point is this whole thing is stupid....dokimos lets have it like the good old days.....and to seed the more the merrier.......these uda children are annoying lol