[frisco sf]

Ok thanks Jake4d1. i never knew.

This post has been edited by frisco sf: 19 December 2005 - 11:03 AM

[dogonthehorizon]

Ok maybe not a secret society and more. But started out as one that evoled and has power over our society. Think about it who called for the Tamplars? people who had power in Europe rite. But why was the tamplars under a secret society? Or why were they captured and tortered for information. This is why i belived they rised under a differnt name. Think about it If they were the free mason, there were two member of the freemason who signed the decleration of independs. So now our aka secret society is our US govenment. We are all basicly slaves to our govenment. But u wanna say wait this is america the land of the free. Ok fine but why do most people work? To live and to survive rite. But the government owns everything. From the cloths we wear to the food we eat. They make there money and we stay a slave. U cant live without money. They have there hold on our society even from the begin were we being played. This is a very smart system. Hey maybe our most important figuers in the world are part of this secret society. So with this they basicly rule the world and we have no chioce but to go with the program.

....mmm nah. i just think your full of it

[©allum]

Even if there is a secret society running everything. Is it really so bad? Sure, some things aren't so good, but as a whole, your life is good, right? Even if we don't have a choice, you can't really complain about the choices these guys are making...

[frisco sf]

Ok but if their is a secret society that runs everything as a show so they can have this power and all of the money is it really fair that there greed is still causing people to starve and live in poverty. No i feel thats not right. Yea every thing may seem ok but in reality everyone who is in the working force trying to make a living is basically a slave. To the people making more then $500,000 to the people making $10 an hour are still slaves. Ok maybe poeple wanna say im full of BS ok fine thats your opinon, but if u dont wanna hear it then u stay blind and dont see what ur up against. because by you not knowing then you will help them with there plan. Yea there maynot be anything we can do. but it doesnt hurt to know.

[©allum]

Ignorance is bliss...

[Jake]

Yea every thing may seem ok but in reality everyone who is in the working force trying to make a living is basically a slave.

a slave with health insurance full dental and $75,000 a year.
What are you saying we shouldn't work?

if nobody worked we would basically be thrown into anarchy where people would just as soon put a bullet in your brain for the sick and twisted pleasure of seeing you twitch on the ground as you're dying than be nice to you or even look at you.
Just think, all those murders, rapists, pyros, psych ward patients, and just general assholes will come out and play.
god help us if a disease becomes an epidemic due to the lack of treatment facilitys, vaccines, and doctors. (Remember they're aren't any jobs because we were slaves.)
a small disease that normally would have been easily treatable could make the bubonic plague (black death) that struck medieval europe look like chicken pox or the cold



lets assume your right... and out there theres a secret society running the show.


lets see... you have a house i bet (if not, a apartment or trailer but i'm gonna call it a house) with only... i'm gonna guess at 4 or 5 people... and i bet its a decent size place.
750 possibly 2000 sq feet.
in some parts of asia there are over 1,500 people per sq. mi. (you think you have it bad? You have it great).


in siberia... the winters are hellish, alot of familys live in these tiny towns and the russian government sends them supplys to survive. most of those people live in conditions alot worse than poverty.
aids is a huge epidemic there in between sharing needles and the women that had to turn to prostitution in order to have enough money to survive.
even though we have aids here, we have a great health care system here in america we are able to properly diagnose hiv/aids and actually treat it (i said treat not cure).
even though people whine and b**** about it we really are lucky to have it.
(be glad for what you have... and also what you don't have)

remember the bill of rights?

Amendment I 
 
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Basically this means the us government cant do to us what the roman catholic church did.
you have the right to choose your religion.
Remember communism?

 
Amendment II 
 
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

just think... without this instead of the cops and the criminals having guns thus leaving us defenseless
but wait... this little piece of paper gives us the right to shoot back at them.
more than they can say in some countrys.

Amendment III 
 
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Do you want a platoon of marines to decide that they like your house and commandeer it tomorrow?

Amendment IV 
 
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

How would you feel if a bunch of cops tear your house to pieces without any warning? it would suck wouldn't it?

Amendment V 
 
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. 

This keeps ludicrous murder cases from going to trial, it also keeps you from being charged with murder, proven not guilty then being charged again and convicted.

Amendment VI 
 
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

well, lets put you on a 15 year long trial where the jury was the victims family.

 
Amendment VII 
 
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

gotta love the jurys. and remember, in the 17oo's 20$ is like $1000 today

Amendment VIII 
 
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

wanna endure a week of hellish torture for a speeding ticket?

we've got it good. greedy bas***** or not
Who would you rather be our ruler?
Saddam Hussein?
Adolph Hitler?
Joseph Stalin?
our government?




btw if you are talking about poverty in the us normally its their own fault that they're homeless... if i end up without a home chances are that i can say its MY fault...Lose your job? get a new one ... Mc.donalds is almost always hiring.
i hate it when people drop out of school out of laziness then decide to sit on their couch and bi*** and whine about the government and proceed to the nearest welfare office and go. Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie!

not many governments would be nice enough to help them.


So how 'bout that secret evil society now?


and its not bs its bulls***




Edit:

almost forgot...

OMG JAKE MADE A BIG POST!

This post has been edited by Jake4d1: 21 December 2005 - 12:17 AM

[frisco sf]

Ok yea jake4d1 u may be right. Yea now i have a nice But its because my family struggled for wat was rightfully ours. I grow up in the ghetto. So basicly saw wat most of the world has went though. But how can this happen wen we live in america. If you have ever live in a neighborhood surrounded but drugs and volience then you wud see how we are differnt from people who didnt have to go though that If you lived in a very good area you wouldn't have to worry about anything happening to you or wen your last breath would be. Were i live now I cherish it everyday wen i wake up. Were we stay you dont see any volience or cops everywhere. everything is positive, which I wish the rest of the world can experience. Even Though were not billionares I still feel like 1. Most people are very lucky not to go though wat i have been though or live the way i did. But hey im even stronger now because of it. Most people who are born into this world with a good house and food on their table take that sh*t for granted. And then turn out depressed over dumb sh*t and do something stuipid like kill them selfs see i don understand it.

[Jake]

I grow up in the ghetto.

You should see my high school...

[ricmrune]

If you have the history channel, there was a special on secret societies from the Aluminati to the Skulls (which is a real group, not just a movie). Regardless of whether it's true or not, will it change how you run your life?

Also, regardless of our origins or status in life, you can't blame people for wanting more or ignoring the plight of others that they never meet. I think the best you can do is inform people where they are in relation to the rest of the population. Afterwards, let them make their own decision regarding that information.

I attended an ethics class in NYU. One of the first things the prof said is that all the people in that room are pretty much at the top of the world. It's up to us whether to see ourselves as very fortunate, very skill at attaining our level or below that of the people who've gone to Harvard or Yale.

[Dragonman]

Do you just recently watch The Truman Show?

Even if our lives were run by a secret society I wouldn't care since I'm fine with, like Leftyy said ignorance is bliss. I find it very unlikely though, you're talking about things that happens generations ago, which means that when they guys behind it died they'd have needed to pass on the respinsibilities. Very unlikely something wouldn't have leaked out when they're looking for "new guys". Yeah, a simple way to look at it, but still...

[Ferret Overlord]

Errr.... The strange thing is, I think all of us have wondered something along these lines at one point in our lives.

[The Man with the Golden Gun]

i still dont get what the truman show has to do with anything

[©allum]

The Truman Show is relevant because it deals with an unseen force that controls a person's life

[Red Sentinel]

actually, i dont think it's really a possibility.



(callum is the leader of the society, and i'm CO-leader)

This post has been edited by Fersken: 03 February 2006 - 01:51 PM

[©allum]

Me neither.

SILENCE, fool! Don't want to alert the others to the big surprise we have in store for them next week...

This post has been edited by Callum Jacques Spartacus Liverot: 03 February 2006 - 11:55 PM