[Game Fan7]

WAR IS GOOD, IF IT ISN'T REAL! BUT PEACE IS BETTER IN ALL WAYS.

[buckbeak14]

ermmmmm ... dan lol havent u read the former posts ? weve made peace with uda
now ... lol but ur rite most ppl here r young and well cme to think bout it
rs is just a game .... but u can truly get caught up in it

[kilobite0]

yeah i reckon im only 15 and i still think war is cool but then again wen u think about it theres nothing good about war

[dokimos0rg]

Danbilly,

It is impossible to go back to the good-old-days, so let's go on to better days now!

My disagreement presently with Kilobite0 is not of consequence anymore really since at least now he wants to allow his clan to go in a good direction. I welcome that.

[kilobite0]

well maybe it wud be good to go back to the "good old days", back when we were in UFF.....

[dokimos0rg]

If anyone wants to continue in UFF or come back to UFF they are free to do so. To do that they need to reflect UFF values. They can easily be active with us.

As UDA is now no longer at enmity with UFF/SeeD and is even allied with the UFF Movement, UDAs are welcome to register for SeeD and to be active in the UFF Movement together with others here.

Yes, there may be a couple clans UFFs have formed and joined but we can keep our unity together as UFFs here in the SeeD forum.

So, identify with the UFF Movement. I encourage working together with others in this movement respectfully, in unity, and unselfishly. Let us build up, not tear down.

If you will notice, though, UFFs have been applying for SeeD and been posting here in the SeeD Forum. Therefore, we have been working together in unity here.

The "good old days" were when UFF was a smaller clan and players knew each other. Our clan's rapid growth changed that. Change was inevitable. Nonetheless, we are here and active. We are United Freedom Fighters.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 21 December 2005 - 02:34 PM

[kilobite0]

U must of got me rong i ment "UFF" not "SeeD/UFF" but doesnt matter i guess

[dokimos0rg]

Right! What's the true difference anyway, except now we have a more fully facilitating forum and larger more robust community together with SeeD.

The one major difference now is that we are open to multiclanning now, which apparently, is something you desire for yourself now, Kilobite0.

So really, doesn't this merger really all work out for the best of everyone? I thought this the best and most practical solution.

* * *

A large and growing clan tends to fragment for different reasons. Also, I had noticed how so many other clans failed. I was aware of these type of matters for clans from the foundation of UFF. This is why UFF was started as a movement.

The old clan model we had helped to facilitate the UFF cause, but we have now grown beyond the walls of being just one clan.

* * *

Unity in unoppressed freedom is not accomplished well by means of control. That is why I stayed away from such methods. Therefore, to preserve unity it needs to be accomplished by other methods seemingly more obscure to some.

UFF's merger into SeeD helps to compensate for our ever growing UFF Movement.

[kilobite0]

yeah i remember u told me back in UFF

"with large clans come large problems"

now i kno wat u were refering to but if its for the good of the clan then u'd be best to do the desicion making. i'll respect your ideals regardless.

Oh yeah i unbanned you from U.D.A forums so u can post now

[rebel876]

to everyone that wanted peace: atleast we all agree on somthing! now this unborn war will never start! it would've been a massacare, i saw ur t.o.r.c. allie in action. they r the best pkers i have ever seen.

to everyone that wanted war: well now for the ppl that want war come tell that 2 my face on rs! im a frikon wizard hunter, i can take nething u throw at me! im a veterian of several rs wars, and i havent lost a battle with another clan (if i was in it). i can kill a whole lot of ppl! if u guys want war so bad mayb ill go n find u myself! i am a very stuborn person wen it comes down to a target! ill go suicide with full rune on for all i care!

we r at peace now so im not gona do anything wat i said id do to the ppl that wants war with uda i will only do if both uff/seed and uda agree i can, cuz i dont wana start this whole thing up agn after its been ended.

ps. ww1 and ww2 were ended in the same kind of way sept, in ww1 the axis agrees with terms of the uncondition surender treaty, but in ww2 the axis want to surender but they didnt want to unconditionaly surender. in both of these treaties we wanted the axis to disband and the lands that they controlled surendered and given back to the owners of the land originaly. i kno alot about war lol

[dokimos0rg]

yeah i remember u told me back in UFF

"with large clans come large problems"

now i kno wat u were refering to but if its for the good of the clan then u'd be best to do the desicion making. i'll respect your ideals regardless.

Oh yeah i unbanned you from U.D.A forums so u can post now

Since you think I should do the decision making, this then is my decision...

Be free and be yourselves.

The emphatic point I have been making has been about raising up an indomitable force vs. the oppression of overlords and protecting clanning freedom for all.

Although I have had to keep the attitudes of many in check, this force is growing and working essentially true to values.

For this to work this is not depended upon us being in one clan but for us to work well together we need to be united.

* * *

Hence, I encourage all UFFs, UDAs and DORs to register for SeeD and remain communicatively active as United Freedom Fighters. This is not saying that you cannot also have other forums as well.

I have no difficulty with multiple forums. It is the sence of unity of cause, vision and values I encourage that we centralize on.

Hence, I would encourage also that our list of UFF values be continued to be honored actively, with the UFF Homepage ( http://dokimos.org/runescape ) to be strongly linked to from other places.

With a presented united set of values, we can keep cohesion and preserve our freedoms as well.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 23 December 2005 - 05:54 AM

[danbilly90]

Why does rebel say stuff like that?