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Should I Continue With The Forum Update? (CurvedSpace and SeeD)

#1 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Cspace {lang:icon}

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Posted 07 August 2003 - 05:54 AM

Please note that I am not completely through with the update. grnwink.gif

The following is an earlier post I made about the forums:

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- Please check the last thread about "SeeD on CurvedSpace" in the Announcement Forum first -

It has been brought to my attention that some want the SeeD and CurvedSpace forums to be joined when the two sites are together.  Before replying, please read the following points so you fully understand the idea:

- The CurvedSpace Forums will be joined with SeeD, not the other way around.  This means that nobody here will lose their accounts, threads, post counts, or anything else.  We would be doing this because SeeD has many more members than CurvedSpace and the transition would be easier.

- Members of CurvedSpace and SeeD will have their post counts from the current CurvedSpace Forums added onto their SeeD post counts.  Members of CurvedSpace will have their post counts transferred upon request (PM me).

- All forums which currently have sub forums (SeeD forums) will be moved to a SeeD category (until we are capable of sub sub forums, hehe).  This category will be located at the bottom of CurvedSpace.

- General Discussion will be changed to "SeeD Discussion" and will not be moved to the bottom.  It will become one of the main forums, and another General Discussion will be made for truly general discussions (not SeeD).

- All non-SeeD sections will have more users eventually, allowing for larger discussions about anything not relating to Runescape or SeeD.  Many members of CurvedSpace leave due to inactivity, though this will end once 500 members suddenly appear overnight (lol).

- More updates will surely happen, since I would no longer have to update two forums.  This means faster upgrades of the forum software, more avatars, more emoticons, and faster support!

- NOTHING WILL BE LOST.  The current CurvedSpace Forums will still be there for transferring of posts and profiles, post counts will be transferred, and absolutely nothing here will be deleted (again, the SeeD Forums will be used as a base for the new forum's construction, so everything here will remain and become part of CurvedSpace).

- The only thing that will be lost is the SeeD logo here (on the forums), and the only downside is that most of the SeeD-related forums will be moved to the bottom (with the possible exception of the current General Discussion, which may become "SeeD Discussion" and will remain at the top).  There will be a sub forum though, including all SeeD forums except our current GD and forums with sub forums, which will be linked to from the SeeD site.  It will allow for easy use of the forums for SeeD, easy use for CurvedSpace members, and even easier use for those who wish to use all our services!  TheSmile.gif

- Combining the forums would probably be the link to truly combine the two sites, for it would allow interaction among everyone.  There will be more members in both directions (CurvedSpace will experience rapid growth once SeeD is there to increase the activity of the forums, and those on CurvedSpace may become interested in SeeD and Runescape, improving our popularity), and this would allow for larger discussions and a more worthwhile experience!

I was just wondering what everyone thinks about this.  I feel that it will be a huge benefit to SeeD and CurvedSpace once the sites join, but as always I will need everyone's opinions to make the best decision.

Please post your suggestions as well grnwink.gif
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 04:34 PM

Keep going! biglaugh.gif I can adapt to Changes biglaugh.gif

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Posted 07 August 2003 - 04:43 PM

I like it so far thumb.gif ...don't merge with cspacezone forums though. Might be a little chaotic
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 04:51 PM

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don't merge with cspacezone forums though. Might be a little chaotic

That was the original plan, since I think the forums will thrive with them together (once those from CurvedSpace realize that the forums have more users now). I don't think anything would become chaotic, the forums would just be used by more members (larger discussions).
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 05:41 PM

I agree with you Cspace. This would createa major traffic increase. After awhile, we should form some clans for D2, WC3, and SC.

Thatt would rule ^_^
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 06:08 PM

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I agree with you Cspace. This would createa major traffic increase. After awhile, we should form some clans for D2, WC3, and SC.

Now that I think of it, yes, we can do something like that. Before, I mentioned guilds in other games like EQ and Ultima Online (which I wouldn't lead), but could be based in the same site. This wasn't really possible before (and other MMORPG's may be difficult for establishing more guilds), but it would be great for games like WC and SC.

... Just a warning though: Don't expect a sudden jump in traffic. We have to wait for lurkers on CurvedSpace to notice these forums before major traffic can be expected.
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 06:13 PM

Yo Cspace, I play Ultima Online...I'm quite crazy about it to, I could help you out with that...
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 06:15 PM

I dont think they should continue because i think its kinda de-runescaping the forums....and since SeeD Is a runescape clan de runescaping the forums will be the same as de-SeeDing the forums like it or not its alrdy visible that this is happening...uve alrdy thrown all the runescape forums to the bottom except for one forum for discussion.....we also now seem to have 2 off topic forums for some reason......
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 07:03 PM

SeeD is a gaming clan, which is sooner or later, going to expand beyond runescape. I believe this helps it, and soon enough, it will create a large increase in traffic, and once we "Plant a few SeeDs" in other games, this place will become probably the biggest overall gaming clan.

Basically, Cspace is the best, and he knows what he's doing.

The Runescape we had will still be here, but now there are other increases in social stuff too, and more things to do.
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 07:17 PM

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SeeD is a gaming clan, which is sooner or later, going to expand beyond runescape.

SeeD won't (it should stay strictly Runescape), though CurvedSpace can sponsor clans in other games. SeeDs can start their own clans in other games, but the clans won't be known as sub-SeeDs, but their own clans based on CurvedSpace. This would allow for interaction in all games without changing SeeD at all.
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 07:18 PM

Mr. X Zolon im sorry to tell you that SeeD is a RUNESCAPE CLAN There has been very little mention of SeeD ever expanding beyond that and many people would have a very bad attitude towards the person that would be responsible for this...
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 07:19 PM

Yeah, well, Seed would be te main clan, and little branches would appear, with different names. I guess Cspacezone was fertilizer, and Seed is growing into a tree (god I'm bad at this)
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 07:22 PM

Alright, CMA.

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SeeD May Appear in Other Online Games
(Probably will happen around April-May): Well, since I've been receiving tons of messages regarding the promised "huge update", this is it. Before you say that this is a bad idea, keep in mind that I'm not the only one thinking that this would be good for the clan. Nova Dreamer, too, agrees that this would benefit the clan. Prior to this update, all the necessary precautions will be made to insure that it will not harm our Runescape-based clan (it will remain Runescape-based, but smaller factions will emerge in games such as EverQuest, and possibly games like Ultima Online and Final Fantasy XI). In fact, at first there will probably be no real effect on the clan in Runescape. This is because EverQuest, our first target, already has a great clan support system. The member list will be on the game itself (so I hear), as well as every other essential need for the clan. New game-specific jobs will emerge, but that's about it at first.

I bet you're wondering about how this will improve SeeD. First of all, many SeeDs don't just play Runescape (at least I hope not, lol). Also, some have left to play other games. Why not make SeeD available to them in the games they play?

Ok, this will benefit them, but how about the rest of the clan? Well, it will bring in a lot more traffic. Along with our Runescape-based forums, we can also be a "mini gaming community". We will be known in other games as well, and possibly gain new ideas to benefit the clan as a whole. It will also give SeeD a larger image, and allow for more members to try their hand at leading their own clan in the name of SeeD. 

This is what Nova Dreamer has to say about this idea: "I think that the expansion of SeeD to other online RPG games is a good and bad idea all in one. By definition our clan is one that is made to promote the peace and to the betterment of all the members of the clan by active participation of the members. For this reason it will work very well if we move to other RPG gmaes where the ability to ally ones self with other players, because we can as a team make a step in progressing to a level of further enjoyment in the game. As well we can protect the games out there from those who wish to create an adverse environment for fellow players. However I also believe this idea has some flaws in that it will only work in certain situations such as Runescape and other Multi Dungeon RPG's with fellow humans. But the biggest worry is the rift in the clan that will be made if there is a sense of two factions of seed who never deal with the other, or a sense of superiority in part of the older members of the original SeeD. I believe it is a very good idea and a good step for the clan, but one that must be marker with caution."

As he said, there will probably be some difficulties. For this reason, we will have to begin this process slowly. If we find that it is not doing well for our clan, we will break our first branch (the EverQuest faction) into its own clan and continue the way we are going right now.

SeeD Will Emerge as the "Peacekeepers of Runescape"
(ongoing process, this seems to be where we're headed): Some may wonder about what I meant when I said "possibly impact the game as a whole", and this is why. Many other clans have tried to do good, by stopping rulebreakers and possibly attacking clans with bad intentions. Quite a few have been successful, but unfortunately haven't been able to influence the game on a larger scale. As our clan grows, I feel that we will be capable of doing more good, attacking rulebreakers and stopping clans with bad intentions (such as "destroy them all" clans, which will cause harm to other clans, specifically the smaller ones which may need more help).

As for how we are doing this, we are currently setting up some new peacekeeping jobs to see how it will turn out. If successful, we will gain the support of many other clans, which will probably help improve our standing with the honest players of Runescape, and help stop the rulebreaking which has been infecting the game since it's creation.


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Posted 07 August 2003 - 07:45 PM

he said may.....and i beleive that idea is pretty much over with and should it ever come back to rear its ugly head i will do everything in my power to cut it off
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Posted 07 August 2003 - 07:57 PM

Ok, thats it. Just be quiet. You don't have anything to prove by opposing this idea. Y'see CMA, theres always a chance, and even though Cspace said SeeD wouldn't be a part of other games, he didn't say Curvedspace won't participate. So don't be saying all this other games stuff won't work, 'cause it will.
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If he does start posting like before, Give him the ban-hammer like Maxi recommended and suggest that he cancel his subscription to "Internet Tough Guy" Magazine.
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