Can High Str Break High Def?

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#1 ${lang:macro__useroffline}$ Grimbold

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Posted 17 August 2003 - 08:41 PM

It can't!!! Aaaaaaa!!! Defense and strength don't affect each other in anyway!
It works like this
Att vs Def
Str vs Armor

Str and def have NOTHING to do with each other.

What say you?

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Posted 17 August 2003 - 08:47 PM

omg 1 small guide now u turn to the seed people omg turn to the RSC people see what Snap God and 12udead etc. say

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Posted 17 August 2003 - 08:50 PM

Umm... If str is high enough it could. Str 67, def 65, easy to go through.

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Posted 17 August 2003 - 08:51 PM

ill prove high str can go through high defense im gonna start training my str now. (after i take a bath and spend time with wife)

#5 ${lang:macro__useroffline}$ Grimbold

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 12:19 AM

Ok lets settle this once and for all. I didn't want to do this, but it looks like I'm going to have to use my secret weapon... *pauses for effect*...Logic!!!

We can agree that Attack is like accuracy, right? It affects your chance to hit.
And we can agree that Strength affects how much you hit for, right?
Now then, logically, armor deosn't help you evade an enemy, right?(honestly, it would just weigh you down. No help there, probably actually a disadvantage, if anything. Just like in rl) Now really, what does armor do? It absorbs damage! If you are wearing armor, and someone hits you, it damages you for less than it would if you wern't wearing anything, right?(just like in rl). SO, if we look at the fact that strength affects how much you hit for, then armor affects how much damage you take, right? (Easy enough) Now if that is true then the only thing that defense can affect is the evasion of enemy attacks! Which has nothing to do with strength, as we've already discerned! (the fact that strength has NOTHING to do with your chance to hit.)

Case closed. Any questions?

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#6 ${lang:macro__useroffline}$ yeah man

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 12:20 AM

i belive i read somewhere that armor acually reduces the amount of times u get hit. i think this is in tip.it somewhere

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#7 ${lang:macro__useroffline}$ Grimbold

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 12:28 AM

If that is true(I'm checking), then I officially declare either Tip.it OR JAGeX a bunch of FREAKING MORONS!!! THAT MAKEs NO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 12:30 AM

i still dont think so.... lets make 2 absolute pures. 1 def pure and 1 str pure. 10 def for one and 10 str for other. so stats are
Defense Pure
1-10-1
Strength Pure
1-1-10

Who will win?

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#9 ${lang:macro__useroffline}$ yeah man

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 12:31 AM

Found it!!! go HERE for proof. its at the bottom

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 12:35 AM

umm yeah man r u on the no it cant break through side? cuz thats wat tip.it is saying.

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Attack Used with Weapon Aim, attack affects your chance to hit an enemy in combat. Temporary attack will decrease if you drink Beer, Wine.
Defense The defense skill modifies the chance of being hit, but not the amount of damage you take if you are hit.
Strength Used with Weapon Power, strength influences the maximum damage you do in combat. Temporary strength will increase if you drink Beer.

i win. attack affects your chance to hit

strenght is only maximum damage!!!!
one more thing

QUOTE

The probably to hit equation is probably like:
% to hit = (minimum % chance + ((Defense skill + total Armour) - (attack skill + weapon aim) +- combat modifier(s).

c! there is no strength in that! btw eventually it will break through but not frequently and not high! y not high??

QUOTE

The damage equation is probably like:
Max. Damage = (Strength + Weapon power) + combat modifier)/ 10)

For example, with an adamite sword and strength of 35, fighting in aggressive mode this probably looks like:
( ( 35 + 32 ) + 3)/10 = (67 + 3) / 10 =70/10 = 7 max damage

thats y!

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#11 ${lang:macro__useroffline}$ yeah man

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 12:55 AM

i will break though evenually

i win!

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 12:57 AM

anythign can break through anything..... a lvl 3 noob could break through a lvl 50 with enough hits.

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 12:57 AM

Eh, this goes in SeeD Inn

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 01:00 AM

im still confused how it all works! ok lets see. GD is major events. CZ is life thingies, and SI is runescape or clan related thigns!

#15 ${lang:macro__useroffline}$ yeah man

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 01:01 AM

yes but the lvl 50 would kill the lvl 3 before that happens....

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