[Neilslayer91]

Well if your here to criticize us, then keep it to yourself.
This is OUR forum, and we have every right to say what we want
without being insulted or disrespected.

[Asadorn]

I've known people who were in clans that raised the reqs. and got mad, not because they didn't meet the req., but because it kicked out a lot of their friends.

Again, not everyone will care.

We are not forcing anybody to be the same as us. It's their choice.

We are not ramming this down anyones throat. You come onto our forums, you read what we are about, you make your decision. We do not go onto other clans forums and post that they have to reform...

[Neilslayer91]

This is merely a loophole for those that don't like req. clans but are in them, and i know many.

[Bodom]

Well if your here to criticize us, then keep it to yourself.
This is OUR forum, and we have every right to say what we want
without being insulted or disrespected.

Im asking you questions so answer them, or cant you answer that?

Its not difficult; Why do you have to keep ramming this down peoples throats?
Why cant you just let people choose what they want to do?

Two new ones:

If everyone is actually infact so against requirements and hates them and cant believe they were ever somehow forced into joining a clan, why are clans such as Gladz, Damage Inc, DS, The, The Dynasty, Jagz, The Sabres and hundreds more succesful and been around for many many years IF these requirements are what ruin and kill clans?

Do you all see something i dont see? I dont think the failure of a clan has anything to do with the requirements yet you all seem to think it does :s?

And the other question:

How exactly do you expect the 190+ members of DI, the 200+ of Gladiatorz and many many more, many of which in their second year as a particular clan to jumpship because some noname "movement" says to because not everyone can join there clan?

NOW I KNOW that Dokis response to that question about not everyone joining will be, its unfair as you can still have a wilderness team or some bull{expletive hax0rd by Cspace}.

Wilderness teams ARE what clans are, yes theres the community and theres the community side, but the clan itself is based in the wilderness like it or not, people want players who can do damage in the wild and uphold the rules in the wild. People are more willing to accept a good 100+ than a new level 50 who should be felt sorry for and for this reason they make the requirement for it, level 3s and 50s whatever can find there own lower based clan which there are enough of, level 110s and level 3s-70s dont mix when it comes to the wild so why try change a five year old thing?

Also, the movement doesnt look like its going so well, i got banned months ago from seed and its still the same old four or five posting? Im still waiting on the other 695 members of UFF Doki to show their faces

Good day

Erm you do realise Doki has made countless posts about how you're all going to take down clans and you all even posted we'll take them down from the inside ;\? Dont turn into hypocrits.

[Neilslayer91]

Well, you keep your beliefs and values to yourself and we'll keep ours,
cuz your getting on peoples nerves now, especially mine.

[Bodom]

Well, you keep your beliefs and values to yourself and we'll keep ours,
cuz your getting on peoples nerves now, especially mine.

Oh {expletive hax0rd by Cspace} whatever will you do? PLEASE DONT MAKE ME CHANGE MY CLANS REQUIREMENTS@@ OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO.

[Neilslayer91]

I don't understand why these rude SeeD members come in here and
insult us while the nice ones we can never meet.

[Asadorn]

Its not difficult; Why do you have to keep ramming this down peoples throats?
Why cant you just let people choose what they want to do?

If everyone is actually infact so against requirements and hates them and cant believe they were ever somehow forced into joining a clan, why are clans such as Gladz, Damage Inc, DS, The, The Dynasty, Jagz, The Sabres and hundreds more succesful and been around for many many years IF these requirements are what ruin and kill clans?

Do you all see something i dont see? I dont think the failure of a clan has anything to do with the requirements yet you all seem to think it does :s?

And the other question:

How exactly do you expect the 190+ members of DI, the 200+ of Gladiatorz and many many more, many of which in their second year as a particular clan to jumpship because some noname "movement" says to because not everyone can join there clan?

To your first question, we are not ramming it down anyones throats, if we were we'd be posting on other clans forums telling them our values and that they are all wrong. We don't do that.

2nd question, we do let people do what they choose to, we have not forced anyone to join our movement.

3rd, Not everyone is so against reqs.

4th, We don't expect that, we expect the ones that care to jumpship.

This post has been edited by Asadorn: 08 June 2006 - 11:02 PM

[Star Jedi]

Echi, I don't mind you debating with them, but I'd rather you not mock or insult them, it really isn't needed.

They have their beliefs, you have yours. A debate is alright. But flaming them is not a debate.

You were just unbanned, please don't start...

[Neilslayer91]

There dude your questions answered,
now keep your rude talk to yourself.

[Bodom]

Echi, I don't mind you debating with them, but I'd rather you not mock or insult them, it really isn't needed.

They have their beliefs, you have yours. A debate is alright. But flaming them is not a debate.

You were just unbanned, please don't start...

Only because its you ill stop ;(((

and neils stop trying to trashtalk me.

[Neilslayer91]

Your the one who was flaming and mocking us!
And thanks for intervening star.

[Star Jedi]

Thanks Echi..

I don't understand why these rude SeeD members come in here and
insult us while the nice ones we can never meet.

No worries, it's expected.. We all have our different beliefs, lol, and I respect you all for keeping yours, and same to those like Echi.

To *anyone* who has differing beliefs, which is a lot of members, it's fine to debate with the Winhill Garden members. Although, no insulting\sarcasm\mocking should be tolerated.. I've seen this happen over and over.. The flaming really needs to stop

Your the one who was flaming and mocking us!

Echi, I find this as correct. Please don't provoke anything =\

[m1grand44]

SJ: Editted. That was seriously not needed. Please refrain from flaming SeeD members or you're being the same.

This post has been edited by Star Jedi: 08 June 2006 - 11:13 PM

[Bodom]

i think i only truely made one comment as an intent to mock ;\