[Cspace]

This is the thread to talk about changes to SeeD as a whole (not specific factions). How can we better accomodate and include our Factions, and make it easier for new members to figure out what we're about? How can Factions feel more important, and members feel more unified?

What if we made some changes? Perhaps something like the following...


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• Change the name of SeeD and adapt other aspects accordingly (as a side effect renaming "the Runescape Faction" to "SeeD" once again). We could become something original and something all-inclusive. We probably wouldn't want to sound like an alliance or nation by becoming the "United Factions" or something ( ), but maybe something closer knit... Something important-sounding that makes Factions sound unified. Perhaps an "Order" of some sort, if you will.
• The guild will in itself be a guild (even if its name is intended to include Factions). You could be a member of the Order and still be able to do things without feeling obligated to joining a Faction. At the same time, joining a Faction will not separate you from others. What could the Order do on its own? Besides doing stuff in games without Factions, perhaps it could discuss leadership methods and other related things (us being member-led and all).
• An "Order" sounds more close-knit than an army or legion, but more important than something that sounds insignificant. This will be a concern when we grow. On the side we can build some interesting ideas and maybe give "Partners" a new meaning (for those who remember that the field exists ). Think ninjas, Jedi, Zorro, [SeeD], etc... We can look to them for ideas and build our own thing.
• Perhaps rename "Factions" to something that makes sense.
• Perhaps, instead of removing them altogether, rename "Gardens" to Councils or something else that makes sense. They would have the same purpose as they do currently.
• We could rework the ranks very easily with an "Order" theme without conflicting with most Faction-specific ranks (like "officers" and whatnot). Maybe we could give them more of a purpose as well.

I just feel that our guild as it is right now isn't really suited for including Factions, and from the perspective of a new member feels awkward. It's difficult to explain that they joined a guild that is part of another guild, especially when they have completely different names where neither sounds inclusive.


Discuss?


Note: This is just me throwing ideas around, it's not anything definite.

[Skyone]

I like the idea...but, wouldn't this be asking for a little too much? Gardens and stuff were based on Final Fantasy and so on...maybe we can think of something...well as far as the Runescape Factin goes...I'm taking care of that atm

[Cspace]

Gardens are just fulfilling a potential need regardless of our theme. We could easily hold onto them in purpose by changing their titles. If this is done, the name "Garden" could be re-incorporated directly into the RS Faction (which would simply be called "SeeD" again). It has implications in a new setup for fighting wars, at least in the context of FFVIII.

[santaseed]

This is a great idea! I still have no clue what gardens are and the ranks are messed up ( at least in the RS faction). We could have a summary of Cspace to new members when they register. it could be like one sentence about the site and maybe two or three sentences about seed and what we do in it, because i dont think they'd want to read a long detailed description of seed. That's just my opinion. What does SeeD stand for anyway?

[Skyone]

SeeD is SeeD

[Cspace]

SeeD isn't an acronym as it may otherwise appear, but is a mercenary force in Final Fantasy VIII.

[santaseed]

wait a minute.............. i think i can get my cousins to join seeD. they play Galaxies and guild wars........ lol i just realized that, you want me to try?

[Darkness]

Uhh... So you're wanting to make it so there's sort of a gaming guild thing that oversees all the factions and sort of leads them all at the same time, and isn't necessarily any game specific, along with the normal leaders of the factions...?

[Rohtaren]

I agree with Moo, SeeD is SeeD. Thats the way its always been and thats the way I like it. I don't care about factions. I think the Gardens are enough, so my opinion is: do away with the factions.

[santaseed]

who are you asking, me or cspace?

[Rohtaren]

Have you considered that I could be talking to everyone?

[santaseed]

Have you considered that I could be talking to everyone?

We posted at same time so I was talking Darkness when i asked

[Jake]

Go ahead. Recruit your cousins.

[Zziggywolf5]

Somehow I doubt changing names would help anything. Plus it could cause confusion with the few people who trickle back from inactivity or any top-site saying "SeeD."

[Rohtaren]

We posted at same time so I was talking Darkness when i asked

oh, sorry.

anyways. ya, i think that the factions don't really matter... i mean... what good are the factions if everyone in SeeD talks to each other. my idea of a faction is a group of people that should have their own forum and not really talk to people outside of that group. so right now, i think that the factions are useless.
the Gardens are a different story, i see them as groups of people who sort of... gave themself a job in SeeD and they all have effectively the same job, such as Galbadia being an army within SeeD... at least last time i checked.