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#1 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Cspace {lang:icon}

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Post icon  Posted 09 July 2007 - 06:39 PM

I know it is long, but I sincerely ask for all who consider themselves Arbiters to take a couple minutes to read this... icon_sweatdrop.gif

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What made 2003 and 2004 different than today? Why, ambition of course... Many were creative and knew for themselves that our guild and community are member-led. They understood it and used their creativity and ambition to build what it was that they thought we could use, or what they thought would be fun to organize. They didn't worry about time, or worry about responsibility, but they did it for the heck of it.

Gardens, Mercenaries, the Mediators, the Innovators, Special Ops, Dimension Zero, the Hosted Forums, alliances, factions, shops, meetings, and even more were created, influenced, and/or controlled by members. Funny how almost everything I mentioned happened more than a year ago?

What about recruiting? What of those ambitious events that got their own forums here, such as the Mock War, SeeD Survivor, Conquering of a Land, and Nuu's current dream-related forum? "Crescens Has Been Defenestrated"? bluetongue.gif The nights in the chat with everyone's IRC bots? The attempt at making a joint RPG? Guild pride, going back well before we were large or successful by anyone's standards?

We weren't window shoppers before... Our members weren't the type to jump from guild to guild to find one at its prime. We came together to build our own guild, and to lift it as high as we could. We all knew what a single member could do, and that's where the whole member-led idea came from. Ever since 2002 we pushed it, until it was forgotten.

That doesn't mean we can't start again...

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I keep hearing this pointless pessimism about how we can't grow, how we shouldn't recruit, how no one comes to events, how Soandso is not good at this or that, how members can't influence anything, and how one wishes that things are how they were. There isn't some mysterious entity holding us back, or some abysmal fate that someone sees in a divining orb. We are simply not taking our guild by the horns anymore... We lost ambition.

That's the only thing. We have much more than we did in a lot of areas, but without ambition what's the point?

I'm not even talking about factions! They're a big part of our community but they're not everything. A lot of the things I mentioned don't have anything to do with games...

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There's no one to blame. For one to say "they should do this to solve our problem" includes you this time as well. It includes the moderators, the faction leaders, all our active members, and me. Everybody who wants our guild and community to succeed. Our community. It's yours just as it is anyone else's.

You can build your own thing here. Your own ideas can thrive. You can make it your community if you want. Forget responsibility. Forget your worries. Just do it for the heck of it, and you'll feel good about it. If your idea succeeds, then you'll have fun with it, others will have fun with it, and the entire community will benefit from it. You will have made a lasting impression, and can consider yourself an architect for what will once again be a successful guild... One you can call your own!

So let's build something again. Guild pride... Not conditional, not after we're successful, but along the road to our goals and your goals. Both in games and out. Are you a window shopper? I hope not. We sure weren't before.

Go ahead and show the [Arbiter] tag in MSN. Mention your guild in your signatures. Take a leadership position. Do whatever the heck you want! That's all we ever did before, and we enjoyed ever minute of it... thumb.gif

I'm going to lay on the beach for a few days [figuratively] ( ShiftyEyes_anim.gif ) drinking rum, while you contemplate whatever gibberish I said here. bluetongue.gif

Please do think about it though... eek13.gif
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 09:19 PM

Basically, everything I have ever loved about this community just got summed up right there.

Bravo, Cspace. Now I'm off to post in LOTPW.

BONUS EDIT:

I just got through having a great conversation with Mr. Jarik about life and such. It was really fun to just talk to him, even though I haven't had a proper discussion with him in probably a year or two. It just goes to show that, even though I've never seen most of the people on this site, I still feel a really strong bond to all of them. This is a place I've been coming to all throughout middle school and high school, and even though I don't play runescape anymore, I still consider myself a purebred seedling.

So praise be thee, Cspace, creator of wonderful things.
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:08 AM

Aye, I think he's definitely outlined a trap that many of us have fallen into, myself certainly included.

Anyone have any good ideas for stuff we could organize?
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 02:53 PM

Y'know, CurvedSpace could half merge with RoL and we could do a few things...

Check out the website(outdated news, sad.gif ):

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 12:35 PM

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and we enjoyed ever minute of it...

I found the typo, I am content.

I'm so busy nowadays, it stinks, I can't really do whatever I want. sad.gif Although I'm thinking of starting up a new faction in Warcraft 3. The members would be supplied from somewhere else, and then the CurvedSpace dudes that play can join at their leisure.

If people need ideas, you can ask me if you want... I'll give you something to do. bluetongue.gif
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:41 PM

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I found the typo, I am content.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 05:25 PM

Well, even way back all those years ago, I don't think I did much recruiting anyway. In fact, the only person who I ever tried to recruit (and was successful in, might I add Suave_anim.gif , though that's probably rather obvious...) was Nazy. So I'll go on doing what I've always done when it comes to recruiting -- nothing! ^^







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Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:56 AM

I've never done all that much recruiting either, the only active or semi-active people I got here were Darkie, Rat, Sparks, Rangers, etc.

Regardless, taking the stance that because other people were picking up our slack in the past we don't need to recruit now either... Well it's pretty short-sighted. The fact is that although not everyone was recruiting in the past, enough people felt strongly about it that it was getting done. Fewer and fewer people are now, and we're suffering because of it. I'm not saying everyone needs to make it a main focus or anything, but if everybody just casually mentioned this place to friends (in-game and out) or made a post on boards they visit (where ads of that nature are allowed, anyway) then we'd see a vast improvement. If lots of people help out, then nobody has to do all that much individually.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 10:19 AM

QUOTE(Goto @ Jul 12 2007, 01:56 PM) {lang:macro__view_post}
Regardless, taking the stance that because other people were picking up our slack in the past we don't need to recruit now either... Well it's pretty short-sighted. The fact is that although not everyone was recruiting in the past, enough people felt strongly about it that it was getting done. Fewer and fewer people are now, and we're suffering because of it.


Im trying to recruit but its not working..... i shall continue though. i have a sneaking suspicsion im one of few who are try to recruit




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Posted 13 July 2007 - 03:42 PM

The reason (I think) why people don't join is cause of the complexity of the website...
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