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Okay guys, I know a few of you here may/may not be affiliated with ZOCU in any way (Zombie Outbreak Control Unit), but if so, I need immediate help.
My question.
If you eat something a zombie has bitten into, like a food article, will you contract their 'virus'? Or if their resurrection was caused by non biological means, is there a cure?
And if it can be contracted that way, about how long does it take to kick in?
I need to know. Preferably BEFORE tomorrow. Please.
Zombie question. *Red flag*
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 05:00 AM
Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 05:36 AM
THE UNDEAD: MYTHS AND REALITIES
ZOM-BZE: (Zom'be) n. also ZOM-BIES pl. I. An animated corpse that
feeds on living humanjlesh. 2. A voodoo spell that raises the dead. 3.
A Voodoo snake god. 4. One who moves or acts in a daze "like a zombie."
[a word of West African origin]
What is a zombie? How are they created? What are their strengths and
weaknesses? What are their needs, their desires? Why are they hostile
to humanity? Before discussing any survival techniques, you must first
learn what you are trying to survive.
We must begin by separating fact from fiction. The walking dead
are neither a work of "black magic" nor any other supernatural force.
Their origin stems from a virus known as Solanum, a Latin word used
by Jan Vanderhaven, who fust "discovered" the disease.
SOLANUM: THE VIRUS
Solannm works by traveling through the bloodstream, from the initial
point of entry to the brain. Through means not yet fully understood,
the virus uses the cells of the frontal lobe for replication, destroying
them in the process. During this period, all bodily functions cease. By
stopping the heart, the infected subject is rendered ''dead." The brain,
however, remains alive hut dormant, while the virus mutates its cells
into a completely new organ. The most critical trait of this new organ
is its independence from oxygen. By removing the need for this allimportant
resource, the nndead brain can utilize, but is in no way
dependent upon, the complex support mechanism of the human body.
Once mutation is complete, this new organ reanimates the body into a
form that bears little resemblance (physiologically speaking) to the
original corpse. Some bodily functions remain constant, others operate
in a modified capacity, and the remainder shut down completely.
This new organism is a zombie, a member of the living dead.
1. SOURCE
U~~fortunateleyx, tensive research has yet to find an isolated example
of Solanum in nature. Water, air, and soil in all ecosystems, from all
accompanying
flora and fauna. At the time of this writing, the search continues.
2. SYMPTOMS
The timetable below outlines the process of an infected human (give
or take several hours, depending on the individual).
Hour 1: Pain and discoloration (brown-puple) of the infected area Immediate
clotting of the wound @rovided the infection came h m a wound).
Hour 5: Fever (99-103 degrees F), chills, slight dementia, vomiting,
acute pain in the joints.
Hour 8: Numbing of extremities and infected area, increased fever
(103-106 degrees F), increased dementia, loss of muscular coordination.
Hour 11: Paralysis in the lower body, overall numbness, slowed heart
rate.
Hour 16: Coma.
Hour 20: Heart stoppage. Zero brain activity
Hour 23: Reanimation.
3. TRANSFERENCE
Solanum is 100 percent communicahle and 100 percent fatal.
Fortunately for the human race, the virus is neither waterborne nor airborne.
Humans have never been known to contract the virus from elements
in nature. Infection can occur only through direct fluidic
contact. A zombie bite, although by far the most recognizable means
of transference, is by no means the only one. Humans have been
infected by brushing their open wounds against those of a zombie or
by being splattered by its remains after an explosion. Ingestion of
infected flesh (provided the person has no open mouth sores), however,
results in pemanent death rather than infection. Infected flesh has
proven to be highly toxic.
No infomation-historical, experimental, or otherwise-has surfaced
regarding the results of sexual relations with an undead specimen,
but as previously noted, the nature of Solanum suggests a high
danger of infection. Warning against such an act would be useless, as
the only people deranged enough to try would he unconcerned for their
own safety. Many have argued that, given the congealed nature of
undead bodily fluids, the chances of infection from a non-bite contact
should be low. However, it must be remembered that even one organism
is enough to begin the cycle.
4. CROSS-SPECIES INFECTION
Solannm is fatal to all living creatures, regardless of size, species, or
ecosystem. Reanimation, however, takes place only in humans. Studies
have shown that Solanum infecting a non-human brain will die within
hours of the death of its host, making the carcass safe to handle.
Infected animals expire before the virus can replicate throughout their
bodies. Infection from insect bites such as from mosquitoes can also
he discounted. Experiments have proven that all parasitic insects can
sense and will reject an infected host 100 percent of the time.
5. TREATMENT
Once a human is infected, little can be done to save him or her. Because
Solanum is a virus and not a bacteria, antibiotics have no effect.
Immunization, the only way to combat a virus, is equally useless, as even
the most minute dosage will lead to a full-blown infection. Genetic
research is under way. Goals range from stronger human antibodies to
resistant cell structure to a counter-virus designed to identify and destroy
Solanum. This and other, more radical treatments are still in the earliest
stages, with no foreseeable success in the near future. Battlefield experiences
have led to the immediate severing of the infected limb (provided
this is the location of the bite), but such treatments are dubious at best,
with less than a 10 percent success rate. Chances are, the infected human
was doomed from the moment the virus entered his or her system.
Should the infected human choose suicide, he should remember that the
brain must be eliminated first. Cases have been recorded in which
recently infected subjects, deceased by means other than the virus, will
nonetheless reanimate. Such cases usually occur when the subject
expires after the fifth hour of infection. Regardless, any person killed
after being bitten or otherwise infected by the undead should be immediately
disposed of. (See "Disposal," page 19.)
6. REANIMATING THE ALREADY DECEASED
It has been suggested that fresh human corpses could reanimate if
Solanum were introduced after their demise. This is a fallacy. Zombies
ignore necrotic flesh and therefore could not transfer the virus.
Experiments conducted during and after World War I1 (see "Recorded
Attacks," pages 216m have proven that injecting Solanum into a
cadaver would be futile because a stagnant bloodstream could not
transport the virus to the brain. Injection directly into a dead brain
would be equally useless, as the expired cells could not respond to the
virus. Solanum does not create life-it alters it.
ZOM-BZE: (Zom'be) n. also ZOM-BIES pl. I. An animated corpse that
feeds on living humanjlesh. 2. A voodoo spell that raises the dead. 3.
A Voodoo snake god. 4. One who moves or acts in a daze "like a zombie."
[a word of West African origin]
What is a zombie? How are they created? What are their strengths and
weaknesses? What are their needs, their desires? Why are they hostile
to humanity? Before discussing any survival techniques, you must first
learn what you are trying to survive.
We must begin by separating fact from fiction. The walking dead
are neither a work of "black magic" nor any other supernatural force.
Their origin stems from a virus known as Solanum, a Latin word used
by Jan Vanderhaven, who fust "discovered" the disease.
SOLANUM: THE VIRUS
Solannm works by traveling through the bloodstream, from the initial
point of entry to the brain. Through means not yet fully understood,
the virus uses the cells of the frontal lobe for replication, destroying
them in the process. During this period, all bodily functions cease. By
stopping the heart, the infected subject is rendered ''dead." The brain,
however, remains alive hut dormant, while the virus mutates its cells
into a completely new organ. The most critical trait of this new organ
is its independence from oxygen. By removing the need for this allimportant
resource, the nndead brain can utilize, but is in no way
dependent upon, the complex support mechanism of the human body.
Once mutation is complete, this new organ reanimates the body into a
form that bears little resemblance (physiologically speaking) to the
original corpse. Some bodily functions remain constant, others operate
in a modified capacity, and the remainder shut down completely.
This new organism is a zombie, a member of the living dead.
1. SOURCE
U~~fortunateleyx, tensive research has yet to find an isolated example
of Solanum in nature. Water, air, and soil in all ecosystems, from all
accompanying
flora and fauna. At the time of this writing, the search continues.
2. SYMPTOMS
The timetable below outlines the process of an infected human (give
or take several hours, depending on the individual).
Hour 1: Pain and discoloration (brown-puple) of the infected area Immediate
clotting of the wound @rovided the infection came h m a wound).
Hour 5: Fever (99-103 degrees F), chills, slight dementia, vomiting,
acute pain in the joints.
Hour 8: Numbing of extremities and infected area, increased fever
(103-106 degrees F), increased dementia, loss of muscular coordination.
Hour 11: Paralysis in the lower body, overall numbness, slowed heart
rate.
Hour 16: Coma.
Hour 20: Heart stoppage. Zero brain activity
Hour 23: Reanimation.
3. TRANSFERENCE
Solanum is 100 percent communicahle and 100 percent fatal.
Fortunately for the human race, the virus is neither waterborne nor airborne.
Humans have never been known to contract the virus from elements
in nature. Infection can occur only through direct fluidic
contact. A zombie bite, although by far the most recognizable means
of transference, is by no means the only one. Humans have been
infected by brushing their open wounds against those of a zombie or
by being splattered by its remains after an explosion. Ingestion of
infected flesh (provided the person has no open mouth sores), however,
results in pemanent death rather than infection. Infected flesh has
proven to be highly toxic.
No infomation-historical, experimental, or otherwise-has surfaced
regarding the results of sexual relations with an undead specimen,
but as previously noted, the nature of Solanum suggests a high
danger of infection. Warning against such an act would be useless, as
the only people deranged enough to try would he unconcerned for their
own safety. Many have argued that, given the congealed nature of
undead bodily fluids, the chances of infection from a non-bite contact
should be low. However, it must be remembered that even one organism
is enough to begin the cycle.
4. CROSS-SPECIES INFECTION
Solannm is fatal to all living creatures, regardless of size, species, or
ecosystem. Reanimation, however, takes place only in humans. Studies
have shown that Solanum infecting a non-human brain will die within
hours of the death of its host, making the carcass safe to handle.
Infected animals expire before the virus can replicate throughout their
bodies. Infection from insect bites such as from mosquitoes can also
he discounted. Experiments have proven that all parasitic insects can
sense and will reject an infected host 100 percent of the time.
5. TREATMENT
Once a human is infected, little can be done to save him or her. Because
Solanum is a virus and not a bacteria, antibiotics have no effect.
Immunization, the only way to combat a virus, is equally useless, as even
the most minute dosage will lead to a full-blown infection. Genetic
research is under way. Goals range from stronger human antibodies to
resistant cell structure to a counter-virus designed to identify and destroy
Solanum. This and other, more radical treatments are still in the earliest
stages, with no foreseeable success in the near future. Battlefield experiences
have led to the immediate severing of the infected limb (provided
this is the location of the bite), but such treatments are dubious at best,
with less than a 10 percent success rate. Chances are, the infected human
was doomed from the moment the virus entered his or her system.
Should the infected human choose suicide, he should remember that the
brain must be eliminated first. Cases have been recorded in which
recently infected subjects, deceased by means other than the virus, will
nonetheless reanimate. Such cases usually occur when the subject
expires after the fifth hour of infection. Regardless, any person killed
after being bitten or otherwise infected by the undead should be immediately
disposed of. (See "Disposal," page 19.)
6. REANIMATING THE ALREADY DECEASED
It has been suggested that fresh human corpses could reanimate if
Solanum were introduced after their demise. This is a fallacy. Zombies
ignore necrotic flesh and therefore could not transfer the virus.
Experiments conducted during and after World War I1 (see "Recorded
Attacks," pages 216m have proven that injecting Solanum into a
cadaver would be futile because a stagnant bloodstream could not
transport the virus to the brain. Injection directly into a dead brain
would be equally useless, as the expired cells could not respond to the
virus. Solanum does not create life-it alters it.
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 06:09 AM
So though I or someone I know may have eaten something a zombie had eaten, I or they should be safe?
Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 05:30 PM
QUOTE(©allum @ Nov 3 2007, 02:38 AM) 
Should be, but I'd question someone who'd eat human flesh.
It may not be necessarily human, as zombies will eat any flesh they can. They just prefer human.
Anyway, that person should be safe from the virus if they ate after a zombie, but there may be other diseases in the meat so they may get sick, just not turned into a zombie.
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 06:49 PM
It was a turkey leg (Poor Star...) to be specific.
Someone came up and I offered some to them, and after they had a bite, I had another, but then it was apparent they were a zombie.
What's strange though, they didn't attack me then, but they did go after someone else. I didn't know zombies were able to hold conversations with others. That's what freaked me out the most.
But the radio said "No Res, you are the demons"
And then Res was a zombie.
Someone came up and I offered some to them, and after they had a bite, I had another, but then it was apparent they were a zombie.
What's strange though, they didn't attack me then, but they did go after someone else. I didn't know zombies were able to hold conversations with others. That's what freaked me out the most.
But the radio said "No Res, you are the demons"
And then Res was a zombie.
Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
The Darky is intrigued XD
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 04:27 AM
OKay so last night, Nox, his girlfriend Amanda, and myself went to the local "Scream Park", called "Edge of Madness". It's basically a little hole in the wall in the woods with a few workshops that are cut out in scary fashions inside and whatnot. Well, among these houses, there are people running around dressed like zombies, ghosts, demons, other stuff.
So after touring a few of the houses and getting generally spooked, Nox and I decide to sit down in the 'chilling' area to eat and drink a few Dr. Peppers before going to another house.
He gets a coke and a roasted turkey leg, and I get a Dr. Pepper. After he takes a few bites, he offers me a chomp which I take. He then says he doesn't want any more, so I take the rest of it. So I'm steadily chewing on this leg, (Which is like a massive chicken leg wrapped in foil. No utensils, just eat it.) and I hear a nearby band start to play.
I start dancing and moshing with myself like the Necromancers from GW with the turkey leg in the air, and this girl comes up and starts dancing as well. The two of us are just jumping around and shaking our heads, generally making idiots of ourselves and having a good time.
So this girl is paying close attention to this turkey leg, and being the nice fellow I am, offer her some. I just hold it up. She takes a massive chunk out of the side of it, which was amazing to see because she was a scrawny little thing. So she takes a bite and goes back to dancing. I'm still hungry so I take another bite as well.
She stops dancing and thanks me for the food and we make small talk, and I said "Yeah, not the greatest food in the world, but it's food just the same.", and offered her the rest of it. She said "No thanks, I'm full. I just finished eating someone else outside." and she walks away.
I turn to Nox and ask "She was a zombie. Wasn't she?" to which he starts laughing his head off.
"Yep. Don't worry, I have a shotgun at the house so we can take care of you when you start to turn."
---
Nox's line is what worried me. Since I took a bite of food that a zombie had eaten, I wondered if/when I would begin to turn, and what would be an acceptable way to treat this or prevent it.
Or now that I seem to -NOT- be a zombie, do you think I've developed any kind of immunity to the sickness if I ever am bitten? That would be cool, I think.
Thoughts?
So after touring a few of the houses and getting generally spooked, Nox and I decide to sit down in the 'chilling' area to eat and drink a few Dr. Peppers before going to another house.
He gets a coke and a roasted turkey leg, and I get a Dr. Pepper. After he takes a few bites, he offers me a chomp which I take. He then says he doesn't want any more, so I take the rest of it. So I'm steadily chewing on this leg, (Which is like a massive chicken leg wrapped in foil. No utensils, just eat it.) and I hear a nearby band start to play.
I start dancing and moshing with myself like the Necromancers from GW with the turkey leg in the air, and this girl comes up and starts dancing as well. The two of us are just jumping around and shaking our heads, generally making idiots of ourselves and having a good time.
So this girl is paying close attention to this turkey leg, and being the nice fellow I am, offer her some. I just hold it up. She takes a massive chunk out of the side of it, which was amazing to see because she was a scrawny little thing. So she takes a bite and goes back to dancing. I'm still hungry so I take another bite as well.
She stops dancing and thanks me for the food and we make small talk, and I said "Yeah, not the greatest food in the world, but it's food just the same.", and offered her the rest of it. She said "No thanks, I'm full. I just finished eating someone else outside." and she walks away.
I turn to Nox and ask "She was a zombie. Wasn't she?" to which he starts laughing his head off.
"Yep. Don't worry, I have a shotgun at the house so we can take care of you when you start to turn."
---
Nox's line is what worried me. Since I took a bite of food that a zombie had eaten, I wondered if/when I would begin to turn, and what would be an acceptable way to treat this or prevent it.
Or now that I seem to -NOT- be a zombie, do you think I've developed any kind of immunity to the sickness if I ever am bitten? That would be cool, I think.
Thoughts?
Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 04:53 AM
No, you see, I'm fine right now.
Give me a week and we'll see how I am.
Back the stuff up.
Give me a week and we'll see how I am.
Back the stuff up.
Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 05:35 AM
WHAT THE HELL DID I JUST SAY?!
Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.