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PUPPIES. Disabled ones. Kitties too!
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 03:13 AM
Look what you've done... gone and made me cry. Seriously though, that little gray kitten is -beautiful-, but keeping him alive... yeah it's not a big deal now, but it'll be a heartbreak in a few years. Nasty virus.
Outside of that, that's pretty awesome.
Outside of that, that's pretty awesome.
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Posted 09 January 2008 - 08:11 AM
FeLV and FIV are pretty bad on a cat looking to be adopted, what with the not being able to live with cats who don't already share the same, for fear of spreading it. Luckily though, it doesn't affect humans and so these cats can be adopted by new owners and people with other animals, such as dogs.
It would be great to adopt a couple of either FIV or FeLV positive cats and just not let them outdoors. Animals with viruses and disabilities are really at a disadvantage when it comes to adoption, as I said, so it would be really great to help out. :3 They're all so cuddly, how could I ever refuse?
One-eyed Jack is the cutest thing.
It would be great to adopt a couple of either FIV or FeLV positive cats and just not let them outdoors. Animals with viruses and disabilities are really at a disadvantage when it comes to adoption, as I said, so it would be really great to help out. :3 They're all so cuddly, how could I ever refuse?
One-eyed Jack is the cutest thing.
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Posted 09 January 2008 - 02:47 PM
I wonder how age of the cat compares to diseases such as these in adoptability. The average person doesn't want to adopt that (that was a generalized that, I'm thinking of when we adopted our gray cat, people had the choice of her, or her kittens, and guess who we didn't have to fight anyone to get?) 3-year-old, despite the fact that she's friendly and beautiful. I suppose that would make ill cats even less desirable.
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I haven't had any cats with FIV, but according to the info on the site, the only thing about it is keeping them from transmitting it to other cats.
FeLV, on the other hand, can be awful. I've had or known more than my share, and it's just... awful. They really don't live very long once they have it. (Not very long being a few years.)
Some were stray cats that we semi-adopted, they would get in fights and get scratched up, and the wounds (usually behind the ears) would grow until they covered much of the back of their heads, rather than healing. And the ones that would let us we'd try to clean them up, take care of the infections and such, but they never got any better. Some cats had it spread further than behind their ears.
We got one when he was about one year old, he'd been found outside. He'd been front declawed too, had the usual hang-ups of an abused cat. When he was nearly four, he developed a thyroid tumor, lost a ton of weight, wouldn't eat or drink or get up to use the litter. That wasn't caused by the FeLV (which we didn't know he had until this happened), but it's possible it allowed it to grow. (Apparently young people get cancers all the time, but the immune system can take care of the majority. I would guess it would be similar for cats.)
I know the ones with FeLV haven't been euthanized because the person caring for them is probably against it. And I know they want what's best for the animal, but I differ on what's best. Don't like it. Many vets and shelters recommend/do it immediately on diagnosis to prevent its' spread and to prevent the future problems/suffering it causes.
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I haven't had any cats with FIV, but according to the info on the site, the only thing about it is keeping them from transmitting it to other cats.
FeLV, on the other hand, can be awful. I've had or known more than my share, and it's just... awful. They really don't live very long once they have it. (Not very long being a few years.)
Some were stray cats that we semi-adopted, they would get in fights and get scratched up, and the wounds (usually behind the ears) would grow until they covered much of the back of their heads, rather than healing. And the ones that would let us we'd try to clean them up, take care of the infections and such, but they never got any better. Some cats had it spread further than behind their ears.
We got one when he was about one year old, he'd been found outside. He'd been front declawed too, had the usual hang-ups of an abused cat. When he was nearly four, he developed a thyroid tumor, lost a ton of weight, wouldn't eat or drink or get up to use the litter. That wasn't caused by the FeLV (which we didn't know he had until this happened), but it's possible it allowed it to grow. (Apparently young people get cancers all the time, but the immune system can take care of the majority. I would guess it would be similar for cats.)
I know the ones with FeLV haven't been euthanized because the person caring for them is probably against it. And I know they want what's best for the animal, but I differ on what's best. Don't like it. Many vets and shelters recommend/do it immediately on diagnosis to prevent its' spread and to prevent the future problems/suffering it causes.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 06:16 AM
QUOTE(Zoo @ Jan 9 2008, 08:47 AM) 
I wonder how age of the cat compares to diseases such as these in adoptability. The average person doesn't want to adopt that (that was a generalized that, I'm thinking of when we adopted our gray cat, people had the choice of her, or her kittens, and guess who we didn't have to fight anyone to get?) 3-year-old, despite the fact that she's friendly and beautiful. I suppose that would make ill cats even less desirable.
When my cat Martin and his mother arrived at the shelter he was only a kitten (He was two years and some months old when we adopted him, and we were told he had been there for about two years, so he must have been fairly young), and for some odd reason his mother was adopted immediately and he was not. As far as I understand, his mother was about two when she was adopted also. He has asthma, but other than that I'm not sure why he wasn't adopted early on. I can't complain, of course, because he's mine now. ^^
I never realized FeLV was so bad, Zoo. I've never known a cat with either, but it sounds pretty bad from what you've said. It must be really disappointing to know and understand the fate of all of those FeLV + cats.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 03:12 PM
The mother was a lucky cat then 
. We picked Willow because after Hastings died we decided we wanted a gray cat for once instead of black. She came with some sort of history, because she' almost 9, and we've had her almost 6 years, and she still runs away when I pull out the broom.
Suppose I can't criticize the kitten people too hard though. My next cat -will- be a kitten 'cause I haven't had one in about 15 years (we tend to adopt what comes to us, and that means adults) and I -really- want one.
Yeah... it's kind of sad when you get to be insensitive about pets dying because it's happened so much (from different things, maybe 1/2 from this, and 1/2 accidents or murders). [Cinnamon might be the first cat I've had die of old age (She's probably 15 now). I think it's because she's just a stubborn old cat.] Hastings was the first I was really upset over in a long time.
Yeah. That kind of cat belongs with the kind of person who's able to have foster cats and actually give them up. Problem is finding the diseases and things that will make them suffer before they actually do.
. We picked Willow because after Hastings died we decided we wanted a gray cat for once instead of black. She came with some sort of history, because she' almost 9, and we've had her almost 6 years, and she still runs away when I pull out the broom. Suppose I can't criticize the kitten people too hard though. My next cat -will- be a kitten 'cause I haven't had one in about 15 years (we tend to adopt what comes to us, and that means adults) and I -really- want one
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I never realized FeLV was so bad, Zoo. I've never known a cat with either, but it sounds pretty bad from what you've said. It must be really disappointing to know and understand the fate of all of those FeLV + cats.
Yeah... it's kind of sad when you get to be insensitive about pets dying because it's happened so much (from different things, maybe 1/2 from this, and 1/2 accidents or murders). [Cinnamon might be the first cat I've had die of old age (She's probably 15 now). I think it's because she's just a stubborn old cat.] Hastings was the first I was really upset over in a long time.
Yeah. That kind of cat belongs with the kind of person who's able to have foster cats and actually give them up. Problem is finding the diseases and things that will make them suffer before they actually do.
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