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Slavery Hmmm... now I'm not so sure...

Poll: Do you think that blacks should have their own appreceation day because of slavery?

Do you think that blacks should have their own appreceation day because of slavery?

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#1 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Ferret Overlord {lang:icon}

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Posted 12 June 2004 - 12:28 AM

This is not meant to start up racism. I was listening to a debate show on the radio with Glenn Beck (Glennnnnn BECK!), when a black man called. He said that we (white people) should help them (blacks). His response was, and I quote,
"Why? What did you ever do for me?".

It's true, slavery was the forefathers choice, not ours. We don't have slavery now (In America) so why should we help you specifically? You didn't earn our money. You didn't help us with our accomplishments alone.

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#2 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Killerconvic {lang:icon}

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Posted 12 June 2004 - 01:05 AM

No, there shouldn't be. It would be like a Timothy McVeigh Remembrance Day.
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#3 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Ferret Overlord {lang:icon}

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Posted 12 June 2004 - 01:50 AM

Yeah! Wait... Who's he?
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Posted 12 June 2004 - 02:04 AM

i think a holiday like that would simply open the door for more resentment over somthing in our history that is imposible to change. yes, slavery was wrong, yes a lot of people were abused, killed, ect. but a holiday to remember that is simply asking for trouble.
on the isue of whites helping blacks, i side with Bill Cosby, and his recent statments saying that blacks should help themselfs more, and not look to others to bail them out. no i'm not racist, i'd help anyone in need, no mater there skin color. but i dont think that gov't sponsored aid for specific groups is the answer.
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Posted 12 June 2004 - 02:44 AM

QUOTE (Ferret Overlord @ Jun 11 2004, 09:50 PM)
Yeah! Wait... Who's he?

Oklahoma City bombing ring a bell?

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on the isue of whites helping blacks, i side with Bill Cosby, and his recent statments saying that blacks should help themselfs more, and not look to others to bail them out.


That holds true for all races, religions, genders, etc.. Good point.
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#6 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Ferret Overlord {lang:icon}

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Posted 12 June 2004 - 05:13 PM

I'm with Cosbey.

And Kc, now I remember!! That crazy guy with the bomb. Olympics, right?
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Posted 12 June 2004 - 05:24 PM

QUOTE (Ferret Overlord @ Jun 12 2004, 01:13 PM)
And Kc, now I remember!! That crazy guy with the bomb. Olympics, right?

No. Oklahoma City bombing.

QUOTE (CNN.com)
Convicted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh was put to death by lethal injectionon at 7:14 a.m. (8:14 EDT) on Monday, June 11. McVeigh, who admitted setting the bomb that killed 168 people in the Oklahoma City federal building, called off further legal efforts in early June to delay the execution. He is the first first federal prisoner to be executed in 38 years.


He killed 168 people, and wounded hundreds more.

http://www.cnn.com/2...h.02/index.html

This had better help you remember..
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#8 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Ferret Overlord {lang:icon}

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 11:05 AM

I'm lost... I don't know him. I live in PA, and I don't watch the news, so I dunno...
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 01:19 PM

I don't think they should. But did you guys see The Chapell show where he showed what would've happened if the government gave everyone their reparations for slavary?

That's how it would end with the holiday, only without everyone being rich.....

So I don't think they should get their own holiday for it cause it would cause more trouble.
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 02:41 PM

Is anyone here even black? I'd like to hear another side to this debate, otherwise, well, its not a debate.

I actually got in an arguement about this in my politics class. The person (was black) was arguing that they deserve to be paid for all the hard work their ancestor's endured. My arguement was that it would cost many of us a great deal of money to do this. We would be paying for mistakes we didn't make, shouldn't have to correct, and do not benefit at all from repaying them. He said that if the ancestors were paid, some of that money would still be in the family, and blacks would be better off. He then said how slavery was the worst thing for any race to go through. I laughed a little at that (I'm part native american and part slovakian, can anyone say genocide? Under normal circumstances, I'd never use these as excuses, but he had to bring it up.). The person then proceeded to call me a racist. He was immediately sent to the principals office, given a detention and a small lecture on the consequences of slander upon my request. I freakin love politics class debates. I have yet to lose. bluetongue.gif
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 04:24 PM

Yeah... If blacks get their own day, then jews get their own day. Do you know how many times the jews were slaves? Egypt, Persia, Germany, Egypt. Egypt...
And whites too. Blacks may think they are the only race to ever be enslaved, but they're not. They want appreciation? They can work for it.
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Posted 17 June 2004 - 02:24 AM

QUOTE (Alpha Weapon @ Jun 16 2004, 10:41 AM)
Is anyone here even black? I'd like to hear another side to this debate, otherwise, well, its not a debate.

I'm half black. My white side (Polish) is still in Poland, and most of my black side is living within 50 miles of me.

I agree with what you said Alpha. That kid sounds like he just assumed that since you most likely look white, that you must be. And he probably doesn't know history.
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Posted 17 June 2004 - 05:40 PM

So, really, we all agree? I do wish we have some pure blacks to argue the issue...
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Posted 17 June 2004 - 06:09 PM

What, you think that by me not being 100% black (which is extremely rare in the U.S., because of slave masters raping slaves), that I would have a different opinion than someone who is more black than I?

My family would agree with me (the black side, since I don't speak Polish), as would many of my black friends. Race has little to do with this edebate.
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Posted 18 June 2004 - 12:02 AM

QUOTE (Ferret Overlord @ Jun 16 2004, 04:24 PM)
Yeah... If blacks get their own day, then jews get their own day. Do you know how many times the jews were slaves? Egypt, Persia, Germany, Egypt. Egypt...

Ya. I kinda think the Jews need a holiday for all the stuff this planet's put them through. Although Christians were slaves and persecuted by the Romans. We were also feed to lions. But no one will ever give us a day because the left wing wont allow anything Christian to be allowed in our government. Even though God was a major part of the founding of this country.... Whatever_anim.gif


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