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Recent Incidents - Please Read

#16 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Killerconvic {lang:icon}

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 04:13 AM

QUOTE (Baseballl @ Jun 18 2004, 12:04 AM)
As I said earlier to those involved in the conflict, just "act" like you want them back but don't flame them.

Ah, I guess I need to work on my lying a bit. It's quite hard to just put on a false smile, and just throw away any feelings for the better of the clan. Guess I have something to work on, eh?
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#17 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Baseballl {lang:icon}

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 04:28 AM

It isn't lying, it is common courtesy
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#18 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Killerconvic {lang:icon}

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 04:30 AM

How is it not lying? If I don't want someone back in the clan, and I tell them the opposite, it is a lie.

QUOTE (Dictionary.com)
lie2    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (l)
n.

  1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
  2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.


Welcoming someone back who I feel is not welcome is a lie, face it.
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#19 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Baseballl {lang:icon}

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 04:35 AM

You can ignore it because it wasn't any of your business. That isn't lying.
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#20 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Killerconvic {lang:icon}

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 04:38 AM

First you say: " As I said earlier to those involved in the conflict, just "act" like you want them back but don't flame them. ", and now you say: " You can ignore it because it wasn't any of your business. ".

Pick one.

Better yet, stop posting about me in this thread. Please.
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#21 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Baseballl {lang:icon}

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 04:41 AM

"Seeds" can ignore it, act as if you welcome them and greet them, or just simply blast them. I have said this over and over in various threads. Since you insist on picking at me, as I said in Aim, then find my mistakes and left out words so YOU can benefit.


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#22 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Killerconvic {lang:icon}

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 04:43 AM

Yes, I am picking at you. Whatever it takes for you to stop talking about me in this thread. We are talking on AIM, so there is no reason for you to continue to post about me here. Please stop.
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#23 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Cspace {lang:icon}

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 06:13 AM

Yes, let's stop. What Silver said was unnecessary, no one is being banned unless they have done something wrong and so far he has not. However we don't need to argue over it, we aren't trying to get anyone.

What Baseballl is saying is basically that if you don't want someone to join SeeD, you don't have to reject them and try to make them feel unwelcome. They won't do anything to you by joining and maybe they have other friends in SeeD, no single member can decide who can and who cannot join. What he is saying to do is not "lying", he is saying that if you are going to comment about someone joining it should not be a put-down. Giving a compliment or friendly comment is not altering the truth, it is just being friendly. If you really don't want to have anything to do with someone who is joining I would recommend just not posting, therefore you will not hurt anyone and you don't have to go against what you believe.

Everything is fine, no worries Killer, I think there is just some confusion among a few members regarding this.
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#24 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Raktor {lang:icon}

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 07:05 AM

Meh, it's mainly about me, but oh well, not much of SeeD respsects me anyway, but I'm staying for the few friends.. *Huggles F8, muler, obi, superchao, gm8, ryl, draggy, MoS, Sk8, wibster, traver, wisard, echi, leftyy lisa, and finally bigrat bluetongue.gif *

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#25 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Muler {lang:icon}

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 07:13 PM

Yes, we should try to avoid this. But Cspace, I must admit, sometimes people just have to put their feet down after the 10th or so time of rejoining
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#26 {lang:macro__useroffline}   ratzaroony {lang:icon}

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 07:30 PM

I'm just going to throw my two cents in on this. The person who asked to join and some people rejected tried to join the Runescape Rebels and was rejected. I was shown a link to a post he made that said some pretty bad stuff about SeeD. I dont know what got into him, but it sure makes us look bad. I don't know if we should let him back and frankly I dont care. Who is allowed in is up to Cspace. If Cspace says he's in, which he did, then he's in, and whether we like him or not, we must accept that he IS ONE OF US and treat him likewise.


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#27 {lang:macro__useroffline}   vietpryde {lang:icon}

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE (Muler @ Jun 19 2004, 03:13 PM)
Yes, we should try to avoid this. But Cspace, I must admit, sometimes people just have to put their feet down after the 10th or so time of rejoining

That may be true but the people who didn't want him back made it so harsh. I've seen a bunch of posts people wrote. If you don't want him back, you don't have to voice it. If you don't want him back, then you should leave. I don't see how big a problem it is for you to occasionly see a post by him. If it's about him leaving/joining, you don't have to read it. If you're getting annoyed by him repeatedly saying he has 99 cooking (I've only seen this 3-4 times) then ask him politely to stop through pm's. You guys practically bullied him. Who wants hate mail(in this case posts) at home?
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#28 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Cspace {lang:icon}

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 08:08 PM

QUOTE (Muler @ Jun 19 2004, 02:13 PM)
Yes, we should try to avoid this. But Cspace, I must admit, sometimes people just have to put their feet down after the 10th or so time of rejoining

While some find it annoying there is no rule against it. Most would consider it repetative and in a community most don't do that, but it doesn't cause anyone trouble (it isn't like we have to go through some extensive process to have someone join). It would be best to put your foot down when someone breaks a rule or starts a conflict, but not in something like this. You can obviously mention it, but by no means should he be put-down or driven out of the clan for it (not saying that you did, I am referring to those who did).

There is no rule against expressing your feelings about something but they cannot be worded in a negative manner that is intended to hurt someone. I will second what Viet was saying about the use of PMs in such situations. grnwink.gif
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#29 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Goto {lang:icon}

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 12:16 PM

I completely agree with you about your post.

Just on a minor matter I want to clear up, though...

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While some find it annoying there is no rule against it.

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that a while back it was announced we shouldn't make leaving topics, and especially shouldn't keep joining and leaving. I seem to remember you posting this quite a while back, and aforementioned member taking offense at the fact it was mainly directed towards himself. Once again I could have got it mixed up somehow, but I just wanted to try and work it out either way for the future.
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Posted 22 June 2004 - 01:18 PM

Think of it this way people. Act to the people on the forums as if they were standing right in front of you. Pretend that if you got them angry they could physically punch you. The only reason you insult them is because they can't physically hurt you or get you in trouble. If you're acting snobby on the forums, then I'm going to consider you snobby in real life. And if you're snobby in real life, you need help. Even though this speech isn't very long, I hate having to type about this topic and on this topic. It's too stupid to keep up. If you're going to insult people, do it off the forums, because we don't want it here.
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