[Danny Wells]

I sorta agree about this one, KC.  There is only one problem with letting people smoke.  If certain people smoke, and get really bad diseases, they stick us with the bill.  Say someone has lung cancer, and another had some accident and lost a lung.  The smoker, who conciously ruined his or her own lung, might take it away from someone who deserves it more.  I say any smoker should automatically be put at the bottom of any organ waiting list.  Also, government aid programs should never benefit a smoker (if smoking is a relevant issue, of course).  I also think smoking in the presence of a non-smoker is actually a crime.  I'm going to find out someday whether or not it is legal to attack and kill someone for blowing smoke at you (technically, they are purposely filling your lungs with lethal gasses, which is nearly the same as pointing a gun at you in my mind, especially because I have asthema).

As for drinking, we should have absolutely no tolerance for DUI.  I say you do it, you get imprisoned for 30-50 years and you may never purchase/consume alcohol or drive again.  So many innocent people die a year cause of idiots who drink and drive.  If I had my own society, the punishment would be death by torture.

Yet again, I vote Alpha for ruler of the world

[Mrb1]

Answer me this question:
When a bad batch of a product is found to be harmful to our health isn't it recalled?
This website gives a list of some of the chemicals in cigarettes. Yeah sure they explain the dangers of cigarettes on the package, but the are not direct enough. In Italy the cigarettes say Smoking is Suicide (Translated from Italian of course, lol.) Other European countries have more direct labels like: Smoking Kills, Smoking Causes aging of the skin, etc. Ours say smoking MAY result in cancer. Some people have to talk like robots because of cigarettes because they got cancer in their vocal cords because of smoking. All in All Smoking is Suicide, Suicide is wrong, Don't Smoke!

[CongressJon]

Smoking... Tough topic to discuss, really. There are a lot of reasons to just say, "Screw it all, ban it for heaven's sake!", but also a few to say, "God dangit we've got a right!" I happen to be anti-smoking, and so should essentially any well-educated person in my own generation (Opinion, not fact ), but here's what I'll say...

The Pro Arguement (For Smoking)
While it's true that, yes, smoking is threatening to one's health, addicting, all that junk, it's one's personal choice to do this. If someone wants to destroy their lungs, their mouth, their clothes, well, that's their choice. They can do whatever they want with their body. And if it happens to help the tobacco industry on the way, then fine.

Anti Arguement (Against Smoking)
There is an incredible amount of things you could put in this, but, well, here goes...
Smoking is just plain bad for you. Just. Plain. Bad. There's nothing good about it. All it will do is increase your risk of dying way earlier than you would have, make your life miserable, decrease your funds for buying packs upon packs of cigarettes/cigars, mess up your teeth and breath, make your clothes and likely house smell horrible, and more, more, more... Another big thing is public smoking. Yes, I know smokers have a right to go where they want, but why endanger others by blowing your own secondhand smoke in their faces? I, for one, HATE secondhand smoke. I won't tolerate it. If someone's smoking outside, I hold my breath and walk quickly past. It's just disgusting. What's their problem shouldn't become yours.

Final Opinion
To sum it all up, the Anti Arguement is much strong. Admittedly, I didn't put much in this post. Basic facts and such, but there's a lot more to it, such as the ever-present tobacco industry, statistics, psycological issues, on and on and on the list goes... But anyway, essentially, I think that while the people of this world should be able to smoke, there should at least be designated smoking areas. Smoking just out on the street or beside restaurants should be a crime, subject to minimal fine.

Just me say on it

[Spikeout]

im with KC. if i or any of my relatives get 2nd hand cancer im taking this to court! foo's

[Lprince]

im not a smoker, but this is all one sided so im gonna argue the other side.

People get extream pleasure from smoking and it helps to sooth the nerves and relax you.

Though saying that, my grandad was in hospital the other day because of smoking.

[Killerconvic]

There are other ways to soothe your nerves and relax. Why damage yourself so horribly in the process?

[CongressJon]

Very true. Many people argue that the reason they smoke is for the feeling - lightheadedness, a sense of... almost peace, a "blissful" unawareness. The thing is, you could get some kind of feeling like this from really just lying down on the couch and letting your mind wander. It's sick, really, when you think about it. There are so many other ways to enjoy yourself, why choose smoking and ruin your body and likely your life in the process?

[Roadtoad6]

were havin a small bonfire, so guess whats going to be the fuel 

you might not want to do that because it would backfire. it would end up making second-hand smoke that not only you, but many others would breathe in as well

Answer me this question:
When a bad batch of a product is found to be harmful to our health isn't it recalled?

It would be recalled, banned, or made unlawful, but the problem with that is that many political parties are funded by cigarette companies! Or so I've heard...



*hears Mr. Harrigan, my health teacher chime in*
It doesn't just create "Lung Cancer", it also can make you get Berger's (don't quite remember if that's spelled right) Disease

^Berger's disease cuts off the circulation to your limbs and the limbs die, having to amputated (if I remember correctly).

[Ruckus Fox]

Personally, I don't care...I know that it's horribly bad, but in all of my past RP's through Furcadia; my character has smoked, and smoke he does....He doesn't take it as an obsession but he smokes knowing the risks and dangers. As well, he'll probably die from a battle before he dies of disease (suffice he's a demon so it'd take a while any way) POINT BEING!...Just because my character's smoke in a game, doesn't mean I do...


----Ruckus the Rogue

[Lprince]

some people have to smoke for medicinal reasons - eg. medicinal pot( i know someone with ms who takes it)

[Neraphym]

More of the Nasty Chemicals in Cigarettes Smoke:

Acetone is one of the chemicals in cigarettes. Acetone is used as solvent, for example in nail polish remover.


Benzene which is used as an industrial solvent in fuel, dyes, synthetic rubbers, etc. Known to cause cancer in humans, benzene is particularly linked with leukaemia.


Cadmium is a very poisonous metal, commonly used to make batteries. "Repeated or long-term exposure to cadmium, even at relatively low concentrations, may result in kidney damage and an increased risk of cancer of the lung and of the prostate." US EPA


Formaldehyde is used to preserve dead bodies. Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen in cigarette smoke, and also causes respiratory and gastrointestinal problems.


Hydrogen cyanide is one of the most toxic chemicals in cigarettes. Short-term exposure to hydrogen cyanide can lead to headaches, dizziness, nausea and vomiting.


Lead is a highly toxic metal, capable of causing serious damage to the brain, kidneys, nervous system and red blood cells. "Children are particularly vulnerable because lead is more easily absorbed into growing bodies and the tissues of small children are sensitive to its effects.

Lead exposure in children can result in delays in physical development, lower IQ levels, shortened attention spans and increased behavioural problems" US EPA.


Mercury vapour is another of the poisonous chemicals in cigarettes. Inhaling mercury vapour may lead to shakiness, memory loss and kidney disease.


Nickel causes increased susceptibility to lung infections.

Most if not all of these are life-threatening. I'm guessing to kill someone for blowing smoke at you is legal, as if would fall under equal retaliation self defense. Dont do it unless you're 100% sure though.

[Danny Wells]

More of the Nasty Chemicals in Cigarettes Smoke:

Acetone is one of the chemicals in cigarettes. Acetone is used as solvent, for example in nail polish remover.


Benzene which is used as an industrial solvent in fuel, dyes, synthetic rubbers, etc. Known to cause cancer in humans, benzene is particularly linked with leukaemia.


Cadmium is a very poisonous metal, commonly used to make batteries. "Repeated or long-term exposure to cadmium, even at relatively low concentrations, may result in kidney damage and an increased risk of cancer of the lung and of the prostate." US EPA


Formaldehyde is used to preserve dead bodies. Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen in cigarette smoke, and also causes respiratory and gastrointestinal problems.


Hydrogen cyanide is one of the most toxic chemicals in cigarettes. Short-term exposure to hydrogen cyanide can lead to headaches, dizziness, nausea and vomiting.


Lead is a highly toxic metal, capable of causing serious damage to the brain, kidneys, nervous system and red blood cells. "Children are particularly vulnerable because lead is more easily absorbed into growing bodies and the tissues of small children are sensitive to its effects.

Lead exposure in children can result in delays in physical development, lower IQ levels, shortened attention spans and increased behavioural problems" US EPA.


Mercury vapour is another of the poisonous chemicals in cigarettes. Inhaling mercury vapour may lead to shakiness, memory loss and kidney disease.


Nickel causes increased susceptibility to lung infections.

Most if not all of these are life-threatening. I'm guessing to kill someone for blowing smoke at you is legal, as if would fall under equal retaliation self defense. Dont do it unless you're 100% sure though.

Definetely agreed!

It should be illegal to smoke, you don't even destroy yourself, but others, and the ozon lair as well. Alpha could do mircales if he had power

[Neraphym]

Yes, make me the leader of Earth. Democracy obviously doesn't work. You'll see one day when the entire world erupts into a civil war between idealistic factions, not countries. Dictatorship is the way to go, lets just hope you get a smart one like me.

[Phorgot]

smoking, bad for the body and always bad for the soul