[Goto]

Recently it has been pointed out many times that Moderators are not supposed to be a leadership position, but are meant to simply help with the administration of the boards. Although many of the qualities that make good moderators make good leaders, it still feels to me there is a hole in the hierarchy.

I feel the clan could benefit from a more structured approach. As it is now the official SeeD ranks only include General and Elite General, as well as the specialty ranks (such as Star the HCR, Draggy the head of events, etc.). Many have complained about the lack of leadership positions to occupy, but many have also complained they don't want there to be too many generals. Generals are capable of leading the clan and must therefore be handpicked by Cspace, having too many of them defeats the purpose. I believe there should be a rank below General, to both give people a trial run at responsibility and to make it more likely there is somebody around to sort out disputes. Traditionally the Commanders were supposed to perform this role, but that became simply a Garden-related position, and now is totally inactive anyway.

I propose a position imbetween Member and General, which for now shall be called... Captain. (name subject to change, I can't think of anything better)
They'd be able to have more restricted control over the clan, mostly for sorting out disputes, trying to help out with leadership if a General or higher isn't around, etc. There could be a fair few of these without tipping the balance of power, meaning more people would have a go at responsibility. Although they'd have to be responsible, it'd be easier to get Captain than to get General, and would also give Cspace more ease in picking who deserved promotion. Basically think of Generals asSuper Moderators with control over most things, and Captains as Moderators with less control over the clan.

I've probably done a bad job of explaining this, but please post comments, suggestions, criticism (constructive though, give reasons why not), etc.

[X Zolon]

It's called headmaster

I wanna be a general! Csproingy...

[Goto]

No it's not. Headmaster is simply an extension of the Commander rank, which is unrelated. Not to mention the number of Headmasters is limited to three, and the garden system is inactive in any case. So not really the same kind of thing I was suggesting.

[CongressJon]

Make me a general All-Great-and-Powerful-Cspace!!!

Anyways, in commenting on this, it's an interesting idea, yet a purposeless one. All it's doing is satisfying certain members' demands of leadership roles, and they wouldn't really be DOING anything anyway. To be a leader, you need to at least have a rightful purpose, which this idea doesn't quite merit.

[Killerconvic]

I agree with the idea, though I don't see much purpose. SeeD, as a clan, is not active in Runescape. Many members of SeeD are active, but not necessarily as a clan. Maybe if this was implemented, the Captains would throw all of SeeD a huge drop party (to promote activity as a clan).

Other than parties, I see no real purpose.

[Goto]

Well I was writing it as I went along, so it isn't exactly complete. It would have to be revised, as well as a brainstorming of what the 'Captains' are in charge of.

[Killerconvic]

Well, then wouldn't the Captains have to "serve" under Generals (divisions/gardens) for this whole idea to work, anyway? It's been tried, and failed.

[Muler]

Yes, a Captain...Maybe each General gets assigned 1 (maybe 2?) Captains to assist them with whatever. Captains could request of course who they want to serve under, or visca versa (Gen.s choose which captains they want, etc.)

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[Cspace]

This is being highly considered

This is a great idea, not saying that we must, but perhaps we could have more than one rank of the same level focusing on different aspects of SeeD? They would be of the same level (one below General), but maybe some would focus on disputes, others would focus on keeping events and fun things coming, and then a third group could be like Headmaster or General assistants?

Just a thought.

[Killerconvic]

[Muler]

But then we have active people who aren't Commanders whining that they're "just another person"

EDIT: Yay Cspace is considering our ideas

This post has been edited by Muler: 29 July 2004 - 11:29 PM

[Ratty]

eh eh, ive been hearing about this idea at school from goto for some time

i think its a good idea

[Goto]

Nice idea, Cspace! Several ranks of the same level, focused on different things? Means more people get a shot at leading things, but they only get the aspect of it they're good at. (doing lots of events, helping to solve conflicts, etc.)

I understand you Killer and I can also understand your reasoning, but there are limitations on setting things up like that. Only a handful of gardens still have active commanders, people leave and new people join. As soon as the commanders leave, a specific garden is left without leadership, and it's not like we can just appoint a new one every time that happens. (hard to tell if people are coming back, might not be suitable people in that garden, etc.)

*Gives rat the bribe he offered for postage of support*

Just Kidding

[Goto]

Sorry to double post, but I want to make it a little more obvious, so that those that haven't seen it can post their opinion.

Cspace has said something like this will probably be added, but any suggestions or criticisms will be noted. So basically if you read it and think of something that would work better, you have a pretty good chance of having your thoughts directly influence SeeD's structure .