[Shadowdancer]

I just wanted to get a feel for people's opinions about having a website out there that was dedicated to providing the RuneScape population a comprehensive registry of players who are rulebreakers, hackers, cheaters, autoers, etc.

What do you all think of this concept, and would you support it?

[Bodom]

Didnt you quit?

[Final F8]

Ech.

I think it could be a good idea, however, don't you think there's a good chance that a number of people will be falsely accused? That could really be damaging to a person if everyone thought they are a hacker or whatever when they're not.

[Shadowdancer]

Agreed, and that's why such a database would have to be maintained by a group of people who knew exactly what they were doing.

[Spikeout]

Runescape has wronged you. I suggest you don't try anymore and leave them to handle it on their own...

But you could do different if you still favor them

[Shadowdancer]

Runescape has wronged you. I suggest you don't try anymore and leave them to handle it on their own...

But you could do different if you still favor them

The idea is to help RuneScape, not get "revenge".

[Spikeout]

It isn't really revenge, it's more of like a not help them but still play the game thing.

[Raktor]

I swear you said you quit.... *Shrug*

How would this benifit us in ANY way?

[Star Jedi]

Big, just lay off it here, please. If he still wants to help RS, I'm not sure why it's a reason to criticize. I'm noticing something here, though.. If it was just a regular every day Runescape player who left runescape and came back, he wouldn't be insulted as much as a more widely known player such as Shadow. Give him a break, I'm sure he's heard enough of it.

Anyways, I could see it happening, but what purpose would it serve?

[Kimojuno]

I like the idea, think it's good, but couldn't it be abused? I know you're saying it would be people who knew EXACTLY what they were doing, but, what about Jagex? I suppose they wouldn't be too thrilled, for the following reasons:

1) It would be showing characters which could be PKed, etc, for no reason besides being a scammer etc. Now not saying, you or anyone controling this website would say to, but what if someone decided to PK the person twenty times a day? Obviously more then would happen, but still, think about it.

2) Any creator, of any game, prefers to be in control of most things doing with their game. I doubt they would appreciate, anyone, even someone they knew and respected as a whole creating something like this.

I seriously doubt they would appreciate someone doing this, let me point something out, I used to be a scammer. I wouldn't apprecate being pointed out, specificly for something I did back in RS1, being thrown at me now a days when I'm not rulebreaking at all.

So to wrap it up, good idea, just a bad world to have it in. People have tried this, in different games, but to my knowledge any (unofficial) plans have not worked. I'm sure, almost certain, that Jagex Staff must have a list themselves. So I'm sure they are doing stuff, even if it's not apparent, I'm sure something is being done.

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The base idea of this, to warn others about rulebreakers, is good. Heck the Legion of Aderon is to alert others, of this fact, but a big list for the general public? No - The keyword being the general public.

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~ Kimojuno - Thank you and have a nice day.

[Goto]

I think the idea has merit. The only thing I feel I should contribute is that we'd have to be pretty strict as far as who was added to it. Some random guy coming and saying 'Hyperfried scammed me out of 300k!' couldn't possibly be added, as there is no proof and for all we know he has a grudge against him for some other reason. Only way I can think of doing it is people taking screenshots of the guy trying to scam people, to be submitted along with the claim. However often things aren't too easy to prove with a picture, and there are some pretty excellent photo editing people out there...

Furthermore, there seem to be two fairly likely possibilities that could prevent it from being useful. When you're trying to trade with somebody, you're not about to go to a completely different web page to check a list to check for a persons name. By the time you've done so, your buyer/seller is probably gone anyway. So even if they're on a listing, isn't any indication that it's going to make people aware.

The other problem is of course that the 'general public' will never find out about it. The fact that it's Shadowdancer wanting to spearhead it could help, as he's pretty well known. However mostly the people he's known by are those that know a thing or two about the game and are less likely to get scammed. Mostly the targets of scammers are those who just play the game and don't participate in other aspects, or are a bit gullible.

[Shadowdancer]

Couple points:

- Yes, I said I would quit and never return. I made a misjudgement. Contrary to public belief, I am not an android but in fact a human being that makes mistakes. I can even provide proof of my own birth, should anyone be that interested.
- The site would be run by people who wouldn't simply post the name of a "scammer" because someone sent an e-mail saying so. Claims would be investigated, looked into and researched (CSI: RuneScape, anyone?). If it was found that there was inconclusive proof to support claims against someone then nothing would be made public on the site, because I know probably as much as anyone how destructive slander is.

Again, this is just a concept right now. I have no definite plans to put this forward; there's many steps that I would have to go through before I could even seriously consider doing so.

This post has been edited by Shadowdancer: 05 January 2005 - 05:25 PM

[obiwan22]

A simple suggestion if this database ever takes place. (I'm seeing this as a giant list of player names) If the player's name could be a link to a picture (or some other kind of hard evidence) of the player's scamming or other offense, that might convince other players who are in doubt. Get what i'm saying?

[Shadowdancer]

A simple suggestion if this database ever takes place. (I'm seeing this as a giant list of player names) If the player's name could be a link to a picture (or some other kind of hard evidence) of the player's scamming or other offense, that might convince other players who are in doubt. Get what i'm saying?

Oh definitely. It wouldn't just be a list of names; each person would have an entry with conclusive evidence of their activities and such.

[obiwan22]

I assumed so, just making sure. Heh.