[Bodom]

SeeD is like old clans, they're skillers, cspace doesnt like calling it at that, but the few seed who do play dont war or pk or anything as a clan, therefore skiller clan, why would skiller clans have combat reqs to join?

Me and style are used to good clans that get somewhere, not bicker and argue that some noob clan wants to take over and kills us all because they lost a set of full rune, and pretend we have over 500 members yet only 20 shown and each one leaves every day.

If your clans are so good without requirements and stuff, whys this happening to you?

No clans ive seen with requirements to enter have these problems, you're one big internal flamefest its hilarious.

And "gay" clans have requirements because why would a clan of mianly 110+ want to pk with level 50s? And how would a good clan even hit them in the wild during a war? You're just pissed you're to low a level to even join a good clan.

Would u Lay off seeD! I have seen over 100+ active members, THE clan is weak cuz it's requirments, and dokimos deserves a break from all this ****.

That doesnt mean they play the game retard, and THE are a weak clan, every time i run into them they get owned, but they have a strong family and good in there own way, and if they are weak because of reqs how do they have over 200 members? Who actually post and play?

[Styledragon1]

Im not seed for your info...IM BK Might retire If ECHI tells me Requirements of Nemesis...So yeah..and ill show you unique om...

[Bodom]

Nemesis are disbanding lol

[Styledragon1]

aww dam...tell me what clan you join next...and if you want...join bk

[Jake]

i'll start a clan and i'll be the only member, requirements would hav to be that that u must be level 2 on rs to join

CAN I JOIN!!!111!1!!!1!!

Well, suit yourself, Dave. I think it is helpful, though, to have a diversity of skills and levels on a pk trip.

i dont think mining will help much

Personally, I think the clans with such high restrictions are not cool but exclusive gay clubs.

bad experience with a clan?

United Freedom Fighters believe in overthrowing tyrants who seek to control other players in Runescape with rules and raising the bar to manipulate others.

how do you over throw a CLAN ON THE FREAKING INTERNET? ive been struggling with that question.
Hack their site? (illegal)
call them gay? (stupid)
spam their site? (stupid and pointless)
kill them in the wild? (AHMYGAWD WTF I DIED! wait i spawned in lumbrige or falador)

Would u Lay off seeD! I have seen over 100+ active members, THE clan is weak cuz it's requirments, and dokimos deserves a break from all this ****.

not all of us play!
those that do play are pretty high levels.
as for me.... i couldn't play if i wanted to

[Bodom]

aww dam...tell me what clan you join next...and if you want...join bk

Well you deleted me off rs and msn you say you dont use so its hard..

I applied for di week ago and got accepted on friday

And no offence or anything but aint BK dying o.0?

[danbilly90]

ok SeeD members are insulting SeeD.....and this is the clan you forced us to merge to dokimos. one thing has been on my mind latly dokimos..... you talk of freedom yet donot always practice it. you changed uffs values to benefit yourself and then you expect us to merge in a place where the same old stuff happens come now dokimos,you have more sense than that.

[dokimos0rg]

Danbilly,

You criticise but I don't see you helping with solutions. I never forced anyone to join SeeD. UFF merging with like-minded clans is part of UFF values. I think you missed that. Generally other clans merged into UFF but we were not forbidden to merge into another clan.

Was I to be "forced" to do forum admin, handle all applications and follow up for UFF? Apparently if I just let the whole UFF clan fall apart in infrastructure and just gave up on all the work that would make you happy?

If someone joins UFF as a member does that mean that all members are "forced" to clan with them? It really isn't "forced", is it, Danbilly?

Danbilly, there just was no way I could keep up with all the work myself. The volunteers to UFF really wouldn't or couldn't do it. UFFs merge into SeeD solved all problems. Sorry if you don't like the help for UFF but we are accepting it.

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UFF values have not changed. Our core values are maintained in SeeD. Only our methods are changed.

You think that having a forum somewhere else prevents the problems UFF and any other clan has faced. No, I wasn't expecting that in UFF's merger with SeeD.

There are loyal SeeD Clan members and there are those who just join the forum. Same found anywhere. Howbeit SeeD has a much finer admin system. It is stable, since 2001!

So what forum prevents its members from replying against its members, Danbilly? Will you say any criticism just to get your own favorite way instead of helping?

UFF members can register for SeeD and still take membership in another clan that is not an enemy to SeeD/UFF, so what's your problem with everything, Danbilly? Give me a break. We can use good clanmembers with values, not unhelpful critics.

[Styledragon1]

bk is alright...andf i like this dan billy guy he's funny )

[danbilly90]

ok, more of that if your not part of the soulution your part of the problem crap.....well, alright tell me this........WHY IN THE HELL DID YOU START A MOVEMENT OF FREEDOM IF YOU DIDNT HAVE THE TIME TO PUT IN. lol, and then you go on to tell me i wasnt helping as if policing the forum everyday was nothing. also, you didnt really give others the power to help you. so you see in essense because of YOUR shortcomings and YOUR lack of trust you screwed us over. i have nothing against you your a great guy but.....

[Kaezion]

preaching values of freedom, yet starting a topic discouraging all future attempts to break off and start a new clan.

extensively using the word "gay" where the actual definition does not apply (unless dokimos0rg is in fact referring to clans in which the requirements are that the members be homosexual).

declaring values of democracy, while trying to hush discontent voiced from members of the UFF clan.

and lastly, trying to appear intelligent by attempting to use semi-sophisticated words and phrases in their proper contexts (and failing).

i smell fraud.

[Raktor]

Or he might have meant gay - happy

[dokimos0rg]

Danbilly, no one is forced to do anything in UFF. We have all the freedoms we had before. Actually we have even more liberalities now. So what is it you want, Danbilly?

[danbilly90]

well, were can i start. #1 you could reopen the old forum, at least then we'd have some independense. many uff just stoped coming here out of confusion #2 allow others to help you, ever here the saying"many hands make light work. #3 you say we have more freedom but in actuallity, we are more opressed and intimidated than ever. I dont think you speak for uffs anymore at least your happy.

[Bodom]

preaching values of freedom, yet starting a topic discouraging all future attempts to break off and start a new clan.

extensively using the word "gay" where the actual definition does not apply (unless dokimos0rg is in fact referring to clans in which the requirements are that the members be homosexual).

declaring values of democracy, while trying to hush discontent voiced from members of the UFF clan.

and lastly, trying to appear intelligent by attempting to use semi-sophisticated words and phrases in their proper contexts (and failing).

i smell fraud.

I love this guy :$