[stinger2u]

well, were can i start. #1 you could reopen the old forum, at least then we'd have some independense. many uff just stoped coming here out of confusion #2 allow others to help you, ever here the saying"many hands make light work. #3 you say we have more freedom but in actuallity, we are more opressed and intimidated than ever. I dont think you speak for uffs anymore at least your happy.

I may be on dokimos side at the moment, but danbilly does have a point, i think you should reopen he old forums, and i felt slightly intimidated when i left to form DOR, but dokimos needed more free time, as in a uff post he said....

I cannot do uff on my own

[dokimos0rg]

Danbilly,

I am sorry that you and some others do not understand this well.

UFF uses SeeD Forum now and doesn't need the old one. SeeD needs to be used as a central forum for UFFs. UFFs can have other clans now and be in SeeD.

No, SeeD's forum is not that confusing really. You just are having difficulty dealing with changes, which are inevitable.

One of the issues of the old forum was moderation. I am not going to have that old forum reopened so that I have to do moderation again. Sephorothoso0, despite his good intentions, had not been watching the forum nearly as much as we needed him to. I am not going to be placed back into that arena again.

If I did think best to reopen the old forum, who would moderate it? Point is, that we don't need the old forum. UFF now is at SeeD.

* * *

I have made room for UFFs who want to start their own clans. It has been my encouragement only for UFFs to register also for SeeD. More freedom than ever is made ready for UFFs. There should be no reason for anyone to complain about what I do or have done. Matters are fixed and solved now.

Danbilly, it is not my fault if you feel oppressed and intimidated. No one is oppressing you here and you are only letting paranoid and irrational fears get the better of you. But granted, that is not uncommon for some. But I am not going to let the fears of players control us.

Consequentially, many UFFs have come over to SeeD now and are doing well. We cannot go back to being a small clan anymore. UFF has grown, therefore, UFF must change to keep up.

* * *

So, Danbilly, how long are you going to be hung up about all this? You have been answered.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 05 December 2005 - 06:31 PM

[Bodom]

"Consequentially, many UFFs have come over to SeeD now and are doing well. We cannot go back to being a small clan anymore. UFF has grown"

Funny, i see the opposite.

[Maxi]

"Consequentially, many UFFs have come over to SeeD now and are doing well. We cannot go back to being a small clan anymore. UFF has grown"

Funny, i see the opposite.

Y'know, this may be me going out on a limb, but.. You seem to be egging this whole debate on. I advise you keep it to a minimum.

And Danbilly, if you want nothing to do with the rest of the forum, it's fine, just go <here>, the bookmark that. See, an easy trip straight to UFF. Not so hard is it?

[Jake]

how can you opress someone in the ******* internet?

[Bodom]

Ok, ill stop being immature about it and just get my view on this whole situation across, who bets im warned for having an opinion? Wait.. On having an opinion a majority of the people have but being one to actually say it.

Right,

The points dokimwhatever makes against succesful clans arent valid as theyre backed up with reasons such as, "they're gay clubs", and huge posts that could've been said in a simple sentence.

I dont like how some level 80 whos clearly leading a failure, has the right to try and flame clans because they have requirements to join them.. is it because theyre suceeding or something?

Its like "dont join another clan, help make this one better!" You ran off and merged with another forum because you can barely keep yours together and seems like you didnt tell any members either.

You act like the Rebels from Greens clan did thinking they'll change something because they say it online, you think UDA can actually damage you? Every single hour theres another ****ing post on how you're all being threatend, or not going to war, or are going to war, or not going to war again, **** sake make your mind up, looking at everyone of your members posts you all PK at the giants anyway, or in full addy armour? 30k BIG ****ING LOSS.

Then i see your posts of how great the UFF is getting and how proud etc you are of it, all ive been seeing are im quitting posts ;\.

And seriously i am NOT the only one thinking this, im constantly in a conversation on msn with someone whos randomly talked to me to complain at how stupid and pathetic this all is, just seems im the only one whos willing to say it and if you cant hack that then get over it and change my opinion, do something about it, dont make another 10 page essay on how clans are gay or if your going to fight, actually make an effort and fix your damn clan.


(might make this into a seperate topic but tone it down to a nicer way..)

[Maxi]

Just to note, I wasn't warning you for thinking that way, it was the way you did it with childish replies laughing at and agreeing with anyone who opposed dokimos0rg. The fact you oppose him yourself I don't really care about, it's your opinion, I just wished you put sometihng more than "lolz, this guy iz great because he hates dokimos". Just so you know.

[Bodom]

Na, i love the way kaezion posts :$ He reminds me of KC alot with how he replies to things, ive said i love this guy quite a lot lol, made a seperate topic on these matters anyway

[Styledragon1]

Ok, ill stop being immature about it and just get my view on this whole situation across, who bets im warned for having an opinion? Wait.. On having an opinion a majority of the people have but being one to actually say it.

Right,

The points dokimwhatever makes against succesful clans arent valid as theyre backed up with reasons such as, "they're gay clubs", and huge posts that could've been said in a simple sentence.

I dont like how some level 80 whos clearly leading a failure, has the right to try and flame clans because they have requirements to join them.. is it because theyre suceeding or something?

Its like "dont join another clan, help make this one better!" You ran off and merged with another forum because you can barely keep yours together and seems like you didnt tell any members either.

You act like the Rebels from Greens clan did thinking they'll change something because they say it online, you think UDA can actually damage you? Every single hour theres another ****ing post on how you're all being threatend, or not going to war, or are going to war, or not going to war again, **** sake make your mind up, looking at everyone of your members posts you all PK at the giants anyway, or in full addy armour? 30k BIG ****ING LOSS.

Then i see your posts of how great the UFF is getting and how proud etc you are of it, all ive been seeing are im quitting posts ;\.

And seriously i am NOT the only one thinking this, im constantly in a conversation on msn with someone whos randomly talked to me to complain at how stupid and pathetic this all is, just seems im the only one whos willing to say it and if you cant hack that then get over it and change my opinion, do something about it, dont make another 10 page essay on how clans are gay or if your going to fight, actually make an effort and fix your damn clan.


(might make this into a seperate topic but tone it down to a nicer way..)

One word...OWNED!!!!

[©allum]

You should tell your members that they don't have to post in the UFF board, they can post elsewhere, cos I think most are whinging because they think you merged and they're getting short-changed cos all the UFF get is one little board. Tell them that they can post elsewhere, or just kill this board completely.