[stinger2u]

HAlo is now leader, better attitude towards uff/seeD and Have given up war and all bountys on us, site needs updateing

[Bodom]

Is he the noob who reckons he has a 119 but only plays his level 70?

[stinger2u]

Is he the noob who reckons he has a 119 but only plays his level 70?

YEs, but he no noob he a Respectable leader













Like the armie?

[Bodom]

Sure he is

[dokimos0rg]

HAlo is now leader, better attitude towards uff/seeD and Have given up war and all bountys on us, site needs updateing

I need to point out that UFF is not at peace with UDA. We are at a temporary cease-fire only.

* * *

As long as Kilobite0 is recognized as the UDA Clanleader who is continually inciting rebellion against UFF...

As long as the UDA website is not changed putting up bounties against UFFs...

As long as UDA continues to declare a war of revenge against UFF...

...there will be no lasting peace between us.

* * *

UFF is outraged. DOR members, who consequentially are UFFs also, are outraged by the declared bounties. We demand changes on UDA website.

Hostilities to this time even now have not been firmly ceased on the behalf of UDA. Kilobite0 maintains a desire to grasp for power and control. Data supplied to me confirms this.

* * *

UDA is divided between waging war with UFF and making peace. How long will they sit on the fence on this issue? We will not sit idly by about it. We will take action against those warring against us irrespective of clan allegiences.

Let changes be immediately made on UDA website. Let firm declarations of peace and goodwill be made on the behalf of UDA.

Kilobite0 is not on vacation when he is still actively communicating on the internet. He is maintaining a stance contrary to betray his friends.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 02 December 2005 - 04:58 PM

[dokimos0rg]

Once changes are made on the UDA website, negotiations may possibly be made. Without such changes, UFF/SeeD police action against UDA is still pending and in order.

UFF has made all changes expected, which have been fulfilled in UFF's merger with SeeD. Much liberalities are extended with good will and friendly unity reaching out. We are not, however, going to be insulted continually by this abiding UDA declaration posted against UFF still demanding revenge against us for petty reasons, even that unstated in reason.

* * *

This UDA rebellion of Kilobite0's is based in madness. It does not behoove UDAs to support his personal petty desire for self-attention and have a clan to be his own pity party.

If UDA will not change its stance officially regarding UDA, I will exhort therefore that all UDA members abandon that clan and join with DOR Clan and UFF in SeeD.

It does not behoove the UDAs to support Kilobite0 in what they already disagree with him about in his basic stances for clanning. Some form of seperation from Kilobite0 by UDAs should be done if they indeed do not support his decided values against our mutual group of friends.

If UDA wishes to maintain their clan and if Kilobite0 will not change the clan homepage, then UDA should gain control of their forum without Kilobite0 and establish a new clan homepage for UDA, with a new foundation of friendship toward UFF. This would be acceptable and recognized by us.

Kilobite0 has no right to take clanmembers as hostages. His actions are those of an overlord and all UFFs know to overthrow such overlords.

* * *

Someone will likely say to me, "Come on, dokimos, be nice."

My answer is, "I will, when we are made nice with."

Until then UFF's stance against UDA is not changed until UDA changes its stance, firmly, sincerely and permenantly. Apologies to UFF by them are in order.

We are not monsters, but neither are we pussycats. We are United Freedom Fighters.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 02 December 2005 - 05:04 PM

[rebel876]

wtf!!! we all want dam peace dokimos!! and it takes along to change EVERYTHING on a website!!! uda isnt divided!!!!!!! we r all on the same dam page!!!! and we r completely pissed off at d.o.r. cuz they called kilobite a cry baby cuz he hasnt been on rs for long!!! 1 of ur guys hacked him!!!! we arnt gona fight u unless if u make the first god dam move!!!!! we r for ****ing peace now! WE ARE NOT BASED ON MADNESS ANYMORE DOKIMOS!!! if u havent read we r CHANGING ARE WAYS!!! im no high ranking leader in uda but if u wana argue with som1 argue with halo. i guess some of us in uda r right ur becoming wat u r fighting dokimos, an overlord. forcing ppl to join wat they dont want to? thats being an overlord. u probubly just merged with this clan for 3 of my reasons...
1. for ur own power
2. cuz u were 2 lazy to pick a group of ppl to help him
3. to get more men to end the war with uda (which it is)
dokimos is good with words i must admit but is geting a bit POWER HUNGRY. uda isnt a REBELLION anymore. if u start war we will end it. kilobite isnt taking hostages! we all went to uda on r won free will dokimos!!! u forced every1 to join SeeD or b removed from uff!!! u cant deny that u forced every1 to join seed!!! i may not be able to prove that u have lied but i can prove u r becoming an overlord!

[dokimos0rg]

Rebel876,

UFF certainly wants peace with its own UFF members. We are not excited about waging war against our friends. This disgusts us and we are outraged at the actions of Kilobite0 who has betrayed us all.

* * *

If you want peace then make it. Simply talking about peace is not enough. Hostilities on the part of UDA must cease. Foremost is the clan values, heritage and foundation of UDA which is to rebel against UFF in revenge. This must be changed for any peace to exist. Kilobite0 is around to do this as various activities of his has been detected.

Here you going again stirring up trouble for no reason. You again start up the lying false allegations against others. Shame on you. You should stop posting when you are so angry. Calm down.

It doesn't take a long time to change a website. You can make a new website in fact.

If you are mad at DOR for calling Kilobite0 a cry baby, then you can be mad at me too. I support DOR in this matter. Kilobite0 has been breaking up friendships and unity amongst us. Why therefore do you support him as a leader if you want peace? Kilobite0 has nothing to do with peace with us.


If someone agrees with UDA members about peace, they will disagree with Kilobite0. This is clear.

Why then do you not recognize that Kilobite0 is not your true leader, strip him of admin powers and start a new UDA website, denouncing the stances of the previous?


You say one of our guys hacked Kilobite0. Oh really? Who then? Prove it! I want to know who amongst us allegedly did such a thing. Hacking is against UFF values.

* * *

I am certainly no overlord, Rebel876, and my actions prove it.

If I was after my own power, why would I step out of being a clanleader?

I did recognize leaders in UFF but I wasn't going to glibly pin titles on players.

UFF did not start the war, UDA did obviously!

If I was seeking a war with UDA I would have done it already.

Rebel876, you talk much but you make little sence.

* * *

I forse no one to join SeeD. I had stated that remaining active in UFF means registering with SeeD as this is our new infrastructure to keep track of clanmembers in UFF now.

DOR is recognized by UFF and its members have also been taking membership in SeeD to stay in unity with us as UFFs. If you must say I've done something, it must be to say that I have helped UFF gain more freedom.

You cannot prove that I have lied, because simply, I haven't lied to you. You, on the other hand Rebel976, have lied and admitted this in forum posts. You ran on and did your own hopeful thing impulsively, Rebel. You are quite impulsive and it makes trouble for you and others.

My character is consistant and loyal. Your behavior has been treacherous and deceiving. Your testimony means little.

But I will agree on peace, but issues need to be addressed on the part of UDA. Mere talk of it is insufficient. If UDA is not divided then make the changes. Stop stalling if you all are serious. My previous post about the changes that UDA can make are viable options for you.

What, am I supposed to smile over the UDA with their posted hatred against us? Hostilities haven't truly ceased. Kilobite0 has been actively and presently throwing the gauntlet down at us. I keep seeing this and hearing about it.

* * *

If you all agree on peace then I recommend you oust Kilobite0 since you renounce his stance and values.

As for you, Rebel876, take a chill pill and calm down please. I am only maintaining a stance because UDA has posed it. Once UDA gets its own internal problems and infrastructure failure solved, you will be able to work this out.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 02 December 2005 - 08:42 PM

[stinger2u]

REbel, if a DOR hacked kilobite, who is it theN? can't answer dat one!

THE peace thing with doki is probaly rong, u lied to us in past

[dokimos0rg]

I will say one thing now in favor of Rebel876 that he is speaking about peace between clans instead of having a hard line stance of stirring strife.

I will respect his now firm personal resolve for interclan peace. I can only hope others will understand that my desire has been for peace also.

It is only that I am not going to back down when others haven't.

I am unfortunately forced to recognize the stance of UDA although desirous to shift to peace, as yet has not formed it.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 02 December 2005 - 08:50 PM

[Bodom]

Whats their website?

[rebel876]

to dokimos,
OK ur not a complete overlord but u still forced ppl to join seed or b kiked outa the clan. but uda will probably not merge with ne clan (idk of ne merge things goin on) and that kilobite is not some noobish rebel. we listen to r leaders beliefs, if kilobite wants to make peace it will b, if he wants war then war the b fought. and lol if i cud make me own website with forums i would've made my own clan. ud have 2 rebeling clans on u, n i dont give up a war unless im a lower to another person in my clan and they want peace. if war is still 2 happen, my the best clan win.

to stinger,
lol srry i didnt say the name it was stealth x1, or more commonly known as POLO KING. if u dont believe me 1 of r ppl saw the hacking in prosess. u can chech the forums.

[stinger2u]

to dokimos,
    OK ur not a complete overlord but u still forced ppl to join seed or b kiked outa the clan. but uda will probably not merge with ne clan (idk of ne merge things goin on) and that kilobite is not some noobish rebel. we listen to r leaders beliefs, if kilobite wants to make peace it will b, if he wants war then war the b fought. and lol if i cud make me own website with forums i would've made my own clan. ud have 2 rebeling clans on u, n i dont give up a war unless im a lower to another person in my clan and they want peace. if war is still 2 happen, my the best clan win.

to stinger,
      lol srry i didnt say the name it was stealth x1, or more commonly known as POLO KING. if u dont believe me 1 of r ppl saw the hacking in prosess. u can chech the forums.

Polo king isn't in DOR

[dokimos0rg]

Rebel876,

I never forsed anyone to join SeeD or be kicked out of the clan. UFFs are still UFFs, only inactive if they don't continue with us.

Kilobite0 started what he called a "rebellion" so he is a noobish rebel. He does not represent many UDAs in his personal noobish rebellion. It is noobish because his reasons were so weak and unjustifed for acting the way he did.

You are foolish to follow him and act twice the noob to do so.

* * *

You talk about making peace but then start up your old strife stirring again, Rebel876. No one needs this from you. You have been noted for your folly by a number of players. Why don't you ever listen about it?

No, Rebel876, you don't listen to your leaders beliefs as you say. When you were a UFF you certainly didn't listen to me that I didn't approve of you taking membership in UDA to be spying on them as a false member of theirs.

I only reply you as I do to show others what kind of folly this noobery is. Doubtful you will ever listen.

* * *

I was not seeking a conflict with Kilobite0. He started his personal rebellion and continues it for no true reason while I've been making moves to solve problems. This is why I have esteemed him as a crybaby and self-centered noob. Should he change and act sensible, I will reconsider this.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 04 December 2005 - 05:08 AM