[dokimos0rg]

I agree with Philmygroin of Undead Anzacs that enough is enough.

I personally desired neither division nor animosity. I simply do not condone the actions of those who seek to divide this clan.

All our own actions are but counter-actions to Undead Anzacs own "rebellion" which Kilobite0 had started personally for himself.

If Undead Anzacs changes their website to drop all conflict with United Freedom Fighters/SeeD and will stop using our clan to recruit for their own, they will have made their moves to bring peace.

Howbeit, if such changes are not made by the Undead Anzacs, all responses by SeeD are hereby justified.

* * *

UFF recognizes the post by PhilMyGroin on the UA Forum stating "uff and seed are not to be touched".

Should reforms continue, UFF will continue to recognize such.

* * *

Was it only that Kilobite0 to have a clan of his own that he rises such a rebellion to himself, for himself? Yes, let us end this.

Is the rising up of seperate clans to divide friends, really for the best for all of our friendships?

Since SeeD permits multiclanning provided the other clan joined is not at war with SeeD, wouldn't it be for the best for us to all stay together?

You can have your clans and be members in SeeD if you are not an enemy clan to SeeD

Therefore, YES! You can be one with us yet and still have your own clans. Is not this UFF merger with SeeD with the best of intentions to help preserve friendships and to account for previous problems we had experienced? What more to players want? Was it in false agreement that they joined UFF to begin with?

Why have division muchless animosity if we can be in agreement. The issue certainly cannot be that I am making the rules on others or building a clan unto my own self.

As I have said often before, I never kicked anyone out of UFF. I can only recognize who behaves as a UFF and who doesn't. Now that we are SeeD, our methods even here are changing.

Isn't it better to put division and animosity behind us rather than to put friendships behind us instead? My stance about this is unchanging.

* * *

Rebel876 posted this in the UA Forum...

my frend is mad

he is mad at bucko and his pking team cuz they betrayed him n he lost his full rune with rune battle axxe and he gave 10 of hes swordies to 1 of bucko's teammates. im not made at ucko or ne1 of his frends cuz its my frends fault for bring his full rune in the wilderness! but he just wants his pl8 body back...

ps. he is mad rely rely mad

So, it seems the very reason that Kilobite0 faulted UFF and started a rebellion to solve is still a problem in his own clan of Undead Anzacs. Did I not say before that a clan of traitors will only do the same betrayal to their own? Eventually another guy like Kilobite0 will rise up in UA and make another rebellion from them in like manner.

Can anyone see the folly in all this division? Is it necessary for any of us? This is why I had so much and often warned you all of bossy overlords who will seek to lead you away after themselves.

Yes, I want peace with those among Undead Anzacs. Yes, let us end this nonsence. Enough is enough for all of us. UFFs, come back home. For those who love betrayal, I can only say that, sadly, you have no home with us.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 28 November 2005 - 09:29 PM

[Bodom]

so theyre doing it cos they lost some rune?

[Jake]

rune!!!! lmao!!!
Even for ME rune aint much... and i was poor!

[dokimos0rg]

It does sound quite lame to start a clan over such a petty grievance, yes.

This has been what we in UFF have been constantly warning our clanmembers about. To beware of the self-centered player that seeks a following after himself.

Such are power-hungry, friend-betrayers, and seek to control other players all in selfish and self-centered attitudes.

* * *

Kilobite0, during this present "rebellion" to UFF as he calls it, frequently responds presently in his forum with simply, "Muahahahahaha". The standard line of the player who has gone mad with power.

This is precisely the attitude that UFF rejects and seeks to overthrow according to our purpose and values. Even though they were truly few UFFs who joined Undead Anzacs, I am quite shocked that as many UFFs as did join Kilobite0's clan, actually did!

In this case for Kilobite0, it is even more mad as it is such petty amouts of power he glories in. UFF grows a lot better and faster than his clan does even with those few leaving us. We are continually gaining. SeeD applications are now continually coming in through UFF website.

Philmygroin is Kilobite0's friend. If he is his true friend and if he truly does seek friendships amongst us, then he will seek to help Kilobite0 see clearly on this matter. It is possible that Kilobite0 may wise up, but it will be hard for him. His ego is on overtime.

It honestly is not something personal I have against Kilobite0, as he once seemed as a good UFF. It is only that I am responsible to stand against overlords. That is my role in UFF, now in Seed, and in Runescape.

[©allum]

Link to Undead Anzacs?

[Jake]

http://www.freewebs.com/undeadanzacs/


OMGF ECH STOL MY FULL MITH SET!!!!!

I H8 U !!!11!!!1!!111



OMGOMGOMG *Startsanti-echclan*

[philmygroin]

i read you post over twice and maybe im stupid or maybe your being very vague but what exactly are you saying?

[sashstar]

from what i gather dokimos is starting to see actions in your clan that show him that your intentions might just be true and if you can continue on the right path that we may be able to put the past into the past

im glad i dont want to be enemies with the uda.....especially if they are trying to set things right

[philmygroin]

thanks for putting it in clear sashstar.

[dokimos0rg]

Sashstar understands correctly, which is what I have been saying openly all along.

Having hidden agendas to lead others after myself and using infiltrating tactics is not what I do, Philmygroin.

* * *

Yes, your own intentions may be all very well, but Kilobite0 is still acting like a tyrant overlord to laugh "Muahahahaha" over the rebellious following he has gathered for himself.

I mean, Phil, it is a nice idea that you have but is Kilobite0 really going to give up all this nonsence?

This is why what you said appears as UA double-talk, I hope you understand. If you are sincere, it will need to be firmly demonstrated not just by you, but by Undead Anzacs.

* * *

You said that you can't change the Undead Anzacs website. Is Kilobite0 really going to do this upon your request?

Kilobite0 is not away somewhere wherein you are waiting for him to return. He is actively posting on the UA Forum. Kilobite0 has not changed the UA website because it seems that he doesn't want to.

Still, UFF and myself are still being flamed against most rudely in the UA Forum. Are you truly representative and representing UA interest for peace? It seems that many others in UA are still seeking for a fight.

So, what is it you all want from us? You have disrespected both our clan and players in our clan and have not truly relented or been sorry for such actions.

* * *

To this moment, I still have to see some true sincere actions of peace from UA. Our patience grows thin with the antagonism your clan is still showing.

If this continues as such, I will make certain that Undead Anzacs is not spared any pain over this. I have all the justification I need against Undead Anzacs for all of SeeD to intervene with its own action.

You want peace? Good! Therefore, make the amends you have stated. Call off the Undead Anzacs rebellion, NOW! STOP STALLING!

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 29 November 2005 - 02:31 PM

[philmygroin]

you think this is easy i got one of my closest friends who is hell bend on killing you and uff, plus i got to deal with other people who are barely holding their resentment of uff in check. im trying to convince kilobite of this subtely bit by bit. time is what i need here and im gonna take my time to do, regardless of what you want do NOW.

onece again i state the person on U.A forum who doing the "muhuhuhu" is Pkangle boi he is kilobites cousin, kilobite gave him that account after he got back kilobite.

[dokimos0rg]

Phil, I applaud your intentions but as it has been shown, the UDA clan is not fully backing you up about this. You're right, it is not easy what you intend to do.

Kilobite0 is PK Angel Boi as has been well tesitfied. If this is not so now, then still, what has been posted by PK Angel Boi still represents Kilobite0 as far as anyone else can tell.

Already I am outraged by the posts against me in the UDA Forum. We are sick of this UDA double-talk. Make the reforms, Phil. The actions of Kilobite0 in rebellion and revenge seeking against UFF should be firmly denounced by UDA.


UFF has made its reforms already.


It is obvious that Kilobite0 has started a rebellion boasting over his own petty grievances against us. He does this just to wage war against UFF to get attention for himself. How long will Kilobite0 patronized for this?

Kilobite0 could not even name the UFF who allegedly attacked him, so how does he know it was a UFF?

Let Kilobite0 come to his senses about this for we did not pick a fight against him. He started a war against UFF for no grounded reasons.

As I said in the UFF Forum, Kilobite0 would have gained much respect for suggesting some reforms if he hadn't started this so-called personal out-of-control rebellion of his.

* * *

UFF is not scared of a war but what Undead Anzacs proposes for a war is for the most noobish of reasons.

You embarass yourselves to all by this. Aren't you players concerned for your reputation about this kind of way?

Does this "revenge" of Undead Anzacs earn any of you respect?

Come now, let us settle this and end the nonsence. As you said, Phil, enough is enough.

UFF expects an apology from UDA about this as we did not start the aggression.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 30 November 2005 - 12:52 AM

[Chaz P K]

dokimos like i said, dont write too much. it gets annoying

[dokimos0rg]

  dokimos like i said, dont write too much. it gets annoying

Chaz P K i say now, don't write stuff that doesn't help us. it gets annoying

[sashstar]

yea chaz.........im pretty sure i remember seeing a rule that says posts should help along a topic and not hinder it as youve kinda done.....

annnnnnyyyyywaaaaayyyyyz


im glad that what i said before was right =P and about kilobite..: it is in human nature to calm down over everything it is hard to stay mad for large amounts of time because eventually you cool off i hope that can happen soon

it would nice for our clans to be freinds (or at least peaceful =P )


-freindship is the first step towards trust-