[Chaz P K]

hi just like to say that woz is leaving uff movement after ur new "allies" have joined. i hate the pk slayerz and if it says that we are allies and that we are friends then we are not. i want nothing to do with them and their clan after thir leaders, killsta69 and zathurii/laronester hacked my pure who had all my stuuf on him.

now im left with a lvl 55 with no stuff. i dont know about u but is that realy following the rules of uff. is hacking your friends accounts and not giving them back part of uff. well i say no, if you are allies with them then ur not with us.

the only way we will stay in the movement is either if:

1. pk slayerz are kicked out.
2. we can have a war against them

its not like we need the them or you. the only reason we became part of the uff movement was because of ther ules and the unity and the way nobody dared to break the rules.
nobody ever has and now that the pk slayerz are part of ur movement i leave. i did not wish to leave but this is the decision of dokimos.



www.warriorsofzammy.com

This post has been edited by chaz p k: 18 March 2006 - 05:31 PM

[Fredie21]

Look man i doubt Dokimos knew about this talk to him. I'm sure can work this out with out a war. But that was before they joined the UFF movement maybe we can get them to give him back. I doubt it will work though once greedy always greedy.
Theres no doubt that hackers are greedy. But question how did they hack you.

This post has been edited by Fredie21: 18 March 2006 - 05:44 PM

[Chaz P K]

well you see. me and zathurii are best friends so we knew each others passwords. when i met toby we were playing on runescape. i think he must have seen what i typed in but still. why the hell hack somebody. now i hav nothing but my lvl 55 how would you feel if you lvl 30 pure with all ur stuff on it suddenly gets hacked for good. i dont care about the movement if they are in it. the only reason they allied with you is so they were equal to me but they dont know the power of my clan. together we may well be invincible to them. pk slayerz will never win us in the war even if they have the support fo you. you will be the only reason they ever even survive the war. and what do you mean by sort it out without war?

[Fredie21]

Well why have a war if you going to quit, quit you dont have to involve UFF what have we done against you. And Thats harsh about your friends Hacking you. BUt i still think you should talk to Dokimos.

This post has been edited by Fredie21: 18 March 2006 - 06:01 PM

[dokimos0rg]

Chaz P K, you have a real reason to be angry and I understand that. By no means do I think this as a light issue.

You are in you rights. You are holding Zathurii accountable. PK Slayers needs to be contacted about this breach of conduct by their clanleader.

UFF stands together with you on this issue, Chaz P K.

UFF values on http://dokimos.org/runescape state...

We value freedom for all characters in Runescape and exhort all members of United Freedom Fighters to stand in defence of the liberty of all players of Runescape within Jagex's rules. Consequentially, activities such as scamming and hacking oppose our values as these are contrary to the freedoms of other players. United Freedom Fighters, does not condone the breaking of Jagex's rules for Runescape.

and also UFF values state...

Should a member have a grievance with another member they will need to solve such problems themselves and not involve the clan. If such problems arise that a member seriously acts contrary to the nature of United Freedom Fighters, the visionary leader of UFF, dokimos0rg, will need to be contacted.

This places Zathurii on probation in UFF.
I firmly request a response from Zathurii on this matter as hacking characters is against UFF values because it is against Jagex rules.

The PK Slayerz need to hold their clanleader Zathurii accountable for his actions and should be contacted via their forum.

What respectable clan will accept hacking? Especially by their clanleader! Who would dare trust such a clanleader. Yes, let the members of PK Slayerz hold their clanleader accountable. If their clan defends account hacking, then it is NOT in the UFF movement!

* * *

As for who is a UFF and who is not, this is all up to individuals. Any clanleader that pulls a clan out of alliance in the UFF movement does so only as an instution.

Players may freely choose what clan they join and if they wish to remain in the UFF Movement.

As for Warriors of Zammy, I hesitate to recognize a withdrawl of that clan from UFF as we are in agreement with them and stand with them in defence of our own United Freedom Fighter loyal-valued players and in defence of our own UFF values.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 19 March 2006 - 12:15 AM

[smmcnabb]

u guys loyal ha my ***

[Game Fan7]

Dont you think that Chaz only want some regard or he needs a reason for going out from movement with reason. I think so.

[Chaz P K]

game fan, i do not wish to leave the uff movement but do not wish to stay so long as those unloyal are in. the whole of uff is about loyalty to the uff rules and ad dokimos stated hacking is not one by which we use.

it is not zathurii who is to blame but killsta69. he is the one saying to keep my account for a clan pker.and so by what i say, they are not LOYAL!

so its all up to dokimos what happens now, whether or not woz is still in the movement or if we are not. i do not wish to make the wrong decision so i leave it down to the members of uff to decide.

[Fredie21]

What respectable clan will accept hacking? Especially by their clanleader! Who would dare trust such a clanleader. Yes, let the members of PK Slayerz hold their clanleader accountable. If their clan defends account hacking, then it is NOT in the UFF movement!

SO really if they dont kick Zathurii out they are gone from the movement. Im ssure it will be the same to dokimos with killsta69. Im sure he wont let pk slayerz stay if they dont.

This post has been edited by Fredie21: 19 March 2006 - 04:01 PM

[Chaz P K]

well, they cant kick out their leader can they?

[Fredie21]

true but then that means there out of the movement to Dokimos so basically your free to stay. if you want that is. You could say that they are "unofficialy" out of UFF. excuse my spelling.

This post has been edited by Fredie21: 19 March 2006 - 04:04 PM

[Chaz P K]

well yea i wanna stay in uff. i realy didnt want to leave but needed something to be done. but what about my pure and all his stuff:

rune scimmy
magic shortbow
145 addy arrows
15 addy arrows (p)
150 mith arrows
104 steel arrows
57 iron arrows
99 bronze arrows
full iron (hes a pure)
power ammy
dragon dagger (s)
dragon dagger (p)
addy scimmy
addy battle axe
flowers (like 5 sets)
2 tribal masks
100 lobbys

and if he says i didnt have this he is lying

[Fredie21]

One if they did do this then there out so dont worry.
two Whats the point of getting that stuff for you if your lvl 55. i doubt he can use it yet. yel i guess he can use some.
three were going to have to listen to their case to.
4(got lazy) once hgreedy always greedy noway your getting it back

This post has been edited by Fredie21: 19 March 2006 - 04:19 PM

[Chaz P K]

he sold it anyway. i know what you mean by state 4. once greedy always greedy. i will never get him back so im stuck with a lvl 55 using a frigging mith long

[Fredie21]

This is about your war statement from a while back. im sure that if they were guilty of this UFF might help in war if it was to happen. I know i would help in the war. i got Hacked before to it sucks so i know how it feels. so i m just saying if there is a war the im in for you guys, but i doubt a war will happen because i believe they will be out.

Little off topic i know

This post has been edited by Fredie21: 19 March 2006 - 04:35 PM