Loose Change
#1
Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:05 PM
If anyone can watch this video, and still have the same opinion of the crappy US government, I'd like them to tell me why. Its long, over an hour, but it'll show you that 9/11 was NOT the work of Osama bin Laden.
Just one example, among hundreds. No building has ever fallen because a plane crashed into it, and it has happened dozens of times before. Jet fuel is 1000 degrees Farenheit too cool to melt steel, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that the World Trade Centers were brought down without the help of explosives. And after the Boeing 757s crashed into the World Trade Centers, witnesses clearly heard the crackle of explosives in the buildings, and after examining films of the World Trade Centers, you could clearly see explosives blowing up in the buildings.
Why and how would the Dicked up Bush Administration pull this off? Check out the video if you want to find out.
Just one example, among hundreds. No building has ever fallen because a plane crashed into it, and it has happened dozens of times before. Jet fuel is 1000 degrees Farenheit too cool to melt steel, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that the World Trade Centers were brought down without the help of explosives. And after the Boeing 757s crashed into the World Trade Centers, witnesses clearly heard the crackle of explosives in the buildings, and after examining films of the World Trade Centers, you could clearly see explosives blowing up in the buildings.
Why and how would the Dicked up Bush Administration pull this off? Check out the video if you want to find out.
And now we have the quote of the day, from greenl2l: PLONGED!!!

#2
Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:57 PM
You need to stop listening to what certain people have to say over the internet. It is impossible to have an explosive or missile on board of an aircraft when all planes are inspected before take off and have been since before 9/11. Jet fuel burns at more than 1000 degrees when exposed to chemicals in building construction and steel. It burns and keeps burning. When you damage the core of the building like the planes did, the building will fall. Don't listen to that BS you see on websites and don't blame Bush for everything, that is the quickest and most ignorant way out...
Alex
#3
Posted 30 March 2006 - 09:02 PM
QUOTE(ticktockclok @ Mar 30 2006, 03:05 PM)
If anyone can watch this video, and still have the same opinion of the crappy US government, I'd like them to tell me why. Its long, over an hour, but it'll show you that 9/11 was NOT the work of Osama bin Laden.
Just one example, among hundreds. No building has ever fallen because a plane crashed into it, and it has happened dozens of times before. Jet fuel is 1000 degrees Farenheit too cool to melt steel, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that the World Trade Centers were brought down without the help of explosives. And after the Boeing 757s crashed into the World Trade Centers, witnesses clearly heard the crackle of explosives in the buildings, and after examining films of the World Trade Centers, you could clearly see explosives blowing up in the buildings.
Why and how would the Dicked up Bush Administration pull this off? Check out the video if you want to find out.
Just one example, among hundreds. No building has ever fallen because a plane crashed into it, and it has happened dozens of times before. Jet fuel is 1000 degrees Farenheit too cool to melt steel, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that the World Trade Centers were brought down without the help of explosives. And after the Boeing 757s crashed into the World Trade Centers, witnesses clearly heard the crackle of explosives in the buildings, and after examining films of the World Trade Centers, you could clearly see explosives blowing up in the buildings.
Why and how would the Dicked up Bush Administration pull this off? Check out the video if you want to find out.
Sigh... Jet fuel can't MELT steel, but it sure as hell can warp it. If a girder were to buckle, a story would collapse, putting excess weight on the story below it, collapsing THAT, and so on.
And wanna know why that explosion happened? Do you know what happens to superheated fuel after being released from a condensed space? Take a mentos tube, cut a tiny slit in it, and drop it into a bottle of soda. Then, really quickly, put the cap on. I suggest running after that. THAT'S a small scale replica, ok? Don't listen to these conspiracy idiots, they have no idea what they're talking about.
Plus, it didn't leave 14 jets to protect the whole country. Counties surrounding DC contain air bases. Even if there weren't, 14 jets is nothing to sneeze at. They could tear any plane into pieces, no matter what the size.
HI! I'M BACK SPORADICALLY! Nobody probably remembers me :(
#4
Posted 30 March 2006 - 09:06 PM
Ech showed this to me a while back. I watched the whole thing (Which I suggest everyone else does before bashing it. The guy did his homework.)
It was interesting to say the least.
It was interesting to say the least.
Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
Such a heavy burden now to be "The One".
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending
To write it down for all the world to see.
#6
Posted 30 March 2006 - 11:14 PM
QUOTE(Bballmastr1 @ Mar 30 2006, 09:57 PM)
You need to stop listening to what certain people have to say over the internet. It is impossible to have an explosive or missile on board of an aircraft when all planes are inspected before take off and have been since before 9/11. Jet fuel burns at more than 1000 degrees when exposed to chemicals in building construction and steel. It burns and keeps burning. When you damage the core of the building like the planes did, the building will fall. Don't listen to that BS you see on websites and don't blame Bush for everything, that is the quickest and most ignorant way out...
.... the explosive was INSIDE the World Trade Center. At least watch part of the movie before calling it bs.
And now we have the quote of the day, from greenl2l: PLONGED!!!

#7
Posted 30 March 2006 - 11:19 PM
QUOTE(Ferret Overlord @ Mar 30 2006, 10:02 PM)
QUOTE(ticktockclok @ Mar 30 2006, 03:05 PM)
If anyone can watch this video, and still have the same opinion of the crappy US government, I'd like them to tell me why. Its long, over an hour, but it'll show you that 9/11 was NOT the work of Osama bin Laden.
Just one example, among hundreds. No building has ever fallen because a plane crashed into it, and it has happened dozens of times before. Jet fuel is 1000 degrees Farenheit too cool to melt steel, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that the World Trade Centers were brought down without the help of explosives. And after the Boeing 757s crashed into the World Trade Centers, witnesses clearly heard the crackle of explosives in the buildings, and after examining films of the World Trade Centers, you could clearly see explosives blowing up in the buildings.
Why and how would the Dicked up Bush Administration pull this off? Check out the video if you want to find out.
Just one example, among hundreds. No building has ever fallen because a plane crashed into it, and it has happened dozens of times before. Jet fuel is 1000 degrees Farenheit too cool to melt steel, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that the World Trade Centers were brought down without the help of explosives. And after the Boeing 757s crashed into the World Trade Centers, witnesses clearly heard the crackle of explosives in the buildings, and after examining films of the World Trade Centers, you could clearly see explosives blowing up in the buildings.
Why and how would the Dicked up Bush Administration pull this off? Check out the video if you want to find out.
Sigh... Jet fuel can't MELT steel, but it sure as hell can warp it. If a girder were to buckle, a story would collapse, putting excess weight on the story below it, collapsing THAT, and so on.
And wanna know why that explosion happened? Do you know what happens to superheated fuel after being released from a condensed space? Take a mentos tube, cut a tiny slit in it, and drop it into a bottle of soda. Then, really quickly, put the cap on. I suggest running after that. THAT'S a small scale replica, ok? Don't listen to these conspiracy idiots, they have no idea what they're talking about.
Plus, it didn't leave 14 jets to protect the whole country. Counties surrounding DC contain air bases. Even if there weren't, 14 jets is nothing to sneeze at. They could tear any plane into pieces, no matter what the size.
Seeing your argument, I'm guessing you watched about the first 10 minutes. You know how on September 11 itself, they constantly showed the World Trade Centers following again and again on news channels such as CNN, etc? Well, you can clearly see it, I think it was about 20 minutes from the end, where you can see tiny grey things going off in the World Trade Centers.
And now we have the quote of the day, from greenl2l: PLONGED!!!

#9
Posted 30 March 2006 - 11:28 PM
QUOTE(Bballmastr1 @ Mar 31 2006, 12:19 AM)
We all know tons of explosives can walk right through the front door
I did watch part of the movie and I was referring to the plane itself and those claims. However, I will not listen to fake reporters and fudged videos to mold my opinion.

Watch at least the first 15 minutes. People working in the World Trade Centers a couple days before the twin towers fell said that entire floors had been closed off, w/ FBI Agents seen going in and out.
Authorities on events of this type had said, right after, that it was impossible for the World Trade Centers to fall from the airplane crashing into it, and then days later, contradicted themselves. Most of them didn't say why they changed their thoughts, but one lady said agents came a couple days later to tell her to take some money and shut up.
Footage of the Pentagon crash was taken by some sort of security, I forget from where, but basically the whole crash of the Boeing into the Pentagon was captured. What happens next? FBI Agents immediately storm in and confiscate the footage. Now, there were some extremely suspicious things about the Pentagon crash, which you can view in the video, but I know you will not do because you're too good for it.
Look, my friend was telling me about this, and my mind immediately went to the ramblings of Michael Moore. I thought this would be pretty stupid too, but it was really convincing. At least watch the first 15 minutes, and if you still think its bull****, tell me why.
And now we have the quote of the day, from greenl2l: PLONGED!!!

#10
Posted 31 March 2006 - 01:17 AM
QUOTE(ticktockclok @ Mar 30 2006, 06:19 PM)
QUOTE(Ferret Overlord @ Mar 30 2006, 10:02 PM)
QUOTE(ticktockclok @ Mar 30 2006, 03:05 PM)
If anyone can watch this video, and still have the same opinion of the crappy US government, I'd like them to tell me why. Its long, over an hour, but it'll show you that 9/11 was NOT the work of Osama bin Laden.
Just one example, among hundreds. No building has ever fallen because a plane crashed into it, and it has happened dozens of times before. Jet fuel is 1000 degrees Farenheit too cool to melt steel, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that the World Trade Centers were brought down without the help of explosives. And after the Boeing 757s crashed into the World Trade Centers, witnesses clearly heard the crackle of explosives in the buildings, and after examining films of the World Trade Centers, you could clearly see explosives blowing up in the buildings.
Why and how would the Dicked up Bush Administration pull this off? Check out the video if you want to find out.
Just one example, among hundreds. No building has ever fallen because a plane crashed into it, and it has happened dozens of times before. Jet fuel is 1000 degrees Farenheit too cool to melt steel, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that the World Trade Centers were brought down without the help of explosives. And after the Boeing 757s crashed into the World Trade Centers, witnesses clearly heard the crackle of explosives in the buildings, and after examining films of the World Trade Centers, you could clearly see explosives blowing up in the buildings.
Why and how would the Dicked up Bush Administration pull this off? Check out the video if you want to find out.
Sigh... Jet fuel can't MELT steel, but it sure as hell can warp it. If a girder were to buckle, a story would collapse, putting excess weight on the story below it, collapsing THAT, and so on.
And wanna know why that explosion happened? Do you know what happens to superheated fuel after being released from a condensed space? Take a mentos tube, cut a tiny slit in it, and drop it into a bottle of soda. Then, really quickly, put the cap on. I suggest running after that. THAT'S a small scale replica, ok? Don't listen to these conspiracy idiots, they have no idea what they're talking about.
Plus, it didn't leave 14 jets to protect the whole country. Counties surrounding DC contain air bases. Even if there weren't, 14 jets is nothing to sneeze at. They could tear any plane into pieces, no matter what the size.
Seeing your argument, I'm guessing you watched about the first 10 minutes. You know how on September 11 itself, they constantly showed the World Trade Centers following again and again on news channels such as CNN, etc? Well, you can clearly see it, I think it was about 20 minutes from the end, where you can see tiny grey things going off in the World Trade Centers.
....
Tiny gray things? That doesn't make any sense. Explosions are red, due to spontaneous combustion from the explosive charge. If you're talking about debris, the whole building was grey.
Oh, I see. I don't think he realizes what happens to anything inbetween two collapsing floors when they collapse. Anything would be forced into the stair shafts then thrown out by the enormous pressure of the concrete, blasting the windows. That's dust, it's not explosion. Here's a picture of an exploding c4 packet.

I'm sure there would be a lot more than the one packet shown in the pic to blow the building out.
One final thing before I go to bed. Watch the impact video closely. Do you see how far in that plane went? More than halfway. There is no way that a building could survive after being cut in half at the base. The supports were designed to stand in case one or two beams went out. Not 20. It's amazing it held out as long as it did.
HI! I'M BACK SPORADICALLY! Nobody probably remembers me :(
#14
Posted 31 March 2006 - 03:49 PM
I watched a Penn and Teller: Bull****! on this conspiracy surrounding 9/11. They brought in explosives experts, firefighters who were there, and they all gave reasons why the "zomg ther wer explosivs" theory is utter crap. These conspiracists forget to factor in things like plane speed and such, because they're people with no lives who don't know anything about what they're talking about. If something crashes at 600 mph into a tall building, then explodes, it will fall...
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Shake (On TV): I'm in your house.
Shake:...
Meatwad:...
Shake: With the sci-fi horror twist.
Shake (On TV): I'm in your house.
Shake:...
Meatwad:...
Shake: With the sci-fi horror twist.
#15
Posted 31 March 2006 - 05:21 PM
QUOTE(Ferret Overlord @ Mar 31 2006, 02:17 AM)
QUOTE(ticktockclok @ Mar 30 2006, 06:19 PM)
QUOTE(Ferret Overlord @ Mar 30 2006, 10:02 PM)
QUOTE(ticktockclok @ Mar 30 2006, 03:05 PM)
If anyone can watch this video, and still have the same opinion of the crappy US government, I'd like them to tell me why. Its long, over an hour, but it'll show you that 9/11 was NOT the work of Osama bin Laden.
Just one example, among hundreds. No building has ever fallen because a plane crashed into it, and it has happened dozens of times before. Jet fuel is 1000 degrees Farenheit too cool to melt steel, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that the World Trade Centers were brought down without the help of explosives. And after the Boeing 757s crashed into the World Trade Centers, witnesses clearly heard the crackle of explosives in the buildings, and after examining films of the World Trade Centers, you could clearly see explosives blowing up in the buildings.
Why and how would the Dicked up Bush Administration pull this off? Check out the video if you want to find out.
Just one example, among hundreds. No building has ever fallen because a plane crashed into it, and it has happened dozens of times before. Jet fuel is 1000 degrees Farenheit too cool to melt steel, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that the World Trade Centers were brought down without the help of explosives. And after the Boeing 757s crashed into the World Trade Centers, witnesses clearly heard the crackle of explosives in the buildings, and after examining films of the World Trade Centers, you could clearly see explosives blowing up in the buildings.
Why and how would the Dicked up Bush Administration pull this off? Check out the video if you want to find out.
Sigh... Jet fuel can't MELT steel, but it sure as hell can warp it. If a girder were to buckle, a story would collapse, putting excess weight on the story below it, collapsing THAT, and so on.
And wanna know why that explosion happened? Do you know what happens to superheated fuel after being released from a condensed space? Take a mentos tube, cut a tiny slit in it, and drop it into a bottle of soda. Then, really quickly, put the cap on. I suggest running after that. THAT'S a small scale replica, ok? Don't listen to these conspiracy idiots, they have no idea what they're talking about.
Plus, it didn't leave 14 jets to protect the whole country. Counties surrounding DC contain air bases. Even if there weren't, 14 jets is nothing to sneeze at. They could tear any plane into pieces, no matter what the size.
Seeing your argument, I'm guessing you watched about the first 10 minutes. You know how on September 11 itself, they constantly showed the World Trade Centers following again and again on news channels such as CNN, etc? Well, you can clearly see it, I think it was about 20 minutes from the end, where you can see tiny grey things going off in the World Trade Centers.
....
Tiny gray things? That doesn't make any sense. Explosions are red, due to spontaneous combustion from the explosive charge. If you're talking about debris, the whole building was grey.
Oh, I see. I don't think he realizes what happens to anything inbetween two collapsing floors when they collapse. Anything would be forced into the stair shafts then thrown out by the enormous pressure of the concrete, blasting the windows. That's dust, it's not explosion. Here's a picture of an exploding c4 packet.

I'm sure there would be a lot more than the one packet shown in the pic to blow the building out.
One final thing before I go to bed. Watch the impact video closely. Do you see how far in that plane went? More than halfway. There is no way that a building could survive after being cut in half at the base. The supports were designed to stand in case one or two beams went out. Not 20. It's amazing it held out as long as it did.
I'm too tired to argue, but its never happened before, referring to a plane taking down a building, so why should it happen twice in one day? Especially in buildings built so well, that they are equipped to withstand any catastrophe, including a plane crashing into it?
And now we have the quote of the day, from greenl2l: PLONGED!!!
