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"Words are more powerful than PKing" What I meant by saying this proverb is "PBing".

#1 {lang:macro__useroffline}   dokimos0rg {lang:icon}

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Post icon  Posted 03 June 2006 - 03:46 PM

Learn what PBing is about...

This proverb I chatted in Runescape has turned out to be a parable of sorts as I think few really understood the depth of what I meant. Therefore, I will explain the parable.

The more readily understood meaning is that words can cut down people a lot harder than just pking their character. Yes, this is true but not entirely what I meant. I wasn't really meaning that we should abuse others in chat. Nor did I recommend this to anyone.

Another meaning some have perceived is that I meant that words can start or end large disputes. While this is most certainly true and the immediate level of understanding I knew would be thought of by my words, I did mean something more deep than this.

What I really meant was is that the war of Runescape has turned bigger than PKing. Players have been seeking to become Player Moderators and getting others banned apparently has been the way to get there.

Therefore, there have been players who have used words as an entrapment for other players to break Jagex rules in chat. They would report that player's breaking of rules and get them banned from Runescape. It is a permanent PK, which I refer to as a PB, a Player Banning.

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PBing someone

The game of Runescape is not just about PKing, which I have often said, since it is an RPG. But now even more so. The new level of combat in Runescape is PBing.

I will mention that I have employed this method of PBing myself. I got PKed once and returned to haunt my killer. He cursed me, I reported him, Jagex banned him, then I told his friend what I did. Muahahahahaha. I can't deny it was a good kick.

If I had actually tricked him into cursing and breaking Jagex rules, I would say that would be unethical, but I didn't do that.

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What is UFF's stance on PBing?

Reporting those who break Jagex rules and getting them banned is within the values of UFF.

However, encouraging others to break Jagex rules, even and especially by trickery, is against Jagex rules and therefore against UFF values also.

Remember Jagex may ban you if you try to do this trick on someone. They have banned PB SCAMMERS before and even lately.

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How you do PBing

If there is someone you don't like in Runescape and you happen to catch him breaking Jagex rules, then go ahead and PB him. Do not employ traps and trickery, though, as that would be a scam, a PB SCAM.

Jagex is continually tightening up on the rules and so much to the point where the whole game of Runescape is redefined by the new skill, yes skill, of Player Moderator. They have a secret score on players of their experience they keep track of. It is a progressed to and attained skill for the greatest most part.


Runescape redefined. New combat of PBing?

The entire game of Runescape is redefined by having Player Mods which results in the new game play method of PBing. Personally, I don't like what the Runescape game has turned into by the way players can become powerful moderators to be able to track other players in Runescape and cause a terrible in balance in the game with these super-powers.

I didn't make this game or call it something it is not. I may be calling it something for which it was not intended but that is not my fault. I am just being frank, candid and honest about this. Jagex is the one who comes up with, what I consider, an incredibly screwed up way to play the game now. Nonetheless, I do recognize the Runescape game for what it is now. It is a new game of PBing because Jagex made it so.

Applying UFF values to the changing game of Runescape isn't always easy but if you know our values well enough, what we are supposed to do becomes clear.


Beware of the PB Scam!

The method of PBing has been most effectively done by two players against one. The lower level 2nd character of someone pulls the trick on the targeted player to get him to chat something against Jagex rules, like saying a website name or misspelled cursing.

The main character then subsequently reports the target character, which is not to easily blamed for pulling a trick, since it was the 2nd character that had actually done the trick. If the 2nd character gets banned it is not a great loss, since it was only a low level character.

This method can backfire on the PBers if they check IP addresses so they may try doing this by connecting to different internet servers.

This has been an effective PBing strategy. Real nasty, huh? This is the world of Runescape now, like it or not.

Now, do you all see how "Words are more powerful than PKing".

Be free and be yourselves.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 05 June 2006 - 12:29 AM

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Posted 03 June 2006 - 03:58 PM

That is a great word of advice D0ki! biglaugh.gif
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 05:45 PM

QUOTE(Mooâ„¢ @ Jun 3 2006, 11:58 AM) {lang:macro__view_post}

That is a great word of advice D0ki! biglaugh.gif


Thank you, Moo. I hope others will pick up on this because I think this is quite important.

There was a UFF who did bring this to attention in SeeD Forum about how there are those who have been seeking to wipe out clans by, what I have now referred to as, PB SCAMMING.

I was trying to remember who posted about that and find that post.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 06:57 PM

Same thing happened to some members of woz, i remember chaz saying something of the sort.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 07:12 PM

Well said doki.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 07:20 PM

And come to think of it loads of noobs try that on me in castle wars lol, my response is killing them.
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 03:42 AM

Doki i kind of disagree with you i mean i dont like people breaking the rules but getting them ban for using bad language isnt me you dont know whats going on in there life and stuff like that.
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 03:58 AM

I WAS ON RUNESCAE HAVING FUN BECAUS I WAS BORED AND I FOUND A WAY TO SAY STUFF LIKE THE F WORD I THOUT IT WOULD GET BLOKED AND THAN I SAW A DOT AND I TALKED TO HIM AND HE JUST STOULD THARE AFTER I TALKED TO HIM A WALKED AWAY AFTER I THINK HE REPORTED ME.

PS:IM TO LAZY TO RE TYP AND I FORGOT TO TRUN OFF CAP LOCK LOL
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 08:55 PM

You're not funny noob......
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 12:41 AM

Evil Cow and Fredie21 bring up valid points regarding freedom of speech, which many of us would like to see more of this uncensored in Runescape.

Now Jagex not only sensors words like "gay" but also its misspelling as "gai"! Even, the player id of UFF member "Frisco SF" gets censored in chat now! I really had some nasty things to say about this but Jagex censored that in chat too.

Yes, questions about how much uncensored swear language is going to be permitted to be read by minors does become a legal issue for Jagex, which I can understand why they need to do some censoring. Most of their rules are for their own legal protection. This is a whole political issue in society.

Honestly, I wouldn't have reported my pker for swearing at me if he hadn't been so very insulting. I do think this thing about reporting other players has gone way out of hand. Ratfinks are everywhere like the Gestapo. Please do not think that I consider ever Player Mod as a Gestapo agent.

Xbox allows verbal communication, wherein that has been uncensored, with player cussing worse than sailors. I do find there exist a number of unfair double-standards existing.

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Posted 05 June 2006 - 12:55 AM

Doki thats fine and all i just dont like ruining peoples experience with runescape because they said a bad word, now hacking and scaming are legit reasons to report people.
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 01:54 AM

Yes that's true fredie, i recieved a permanent ban for cussing too much in runescape lol.
but don't worry i appealed and told em my acc was hacked for ova a year lol.
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 06:40 PM

lol neils your such a liar. you lied to runescape. I dont cuss on runescape.

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Posted 05 June 2006 - 07:03 PM

If it were up to me, I'd like to see a chat mode where you can turn off the language filter. Unfortunately, I don't make policy rules for Jagex's Runescape.

This thing about banning over language is a real bummer. Unfortunately, because it is a cause for banning, it becomes one of the tactical strategies of the game called Player Banning (PBing).

Like it or not, this is the face of Runescape now and part of the game. There are players seeking to bring down clans by tricking them to chat swear language or website names.
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 07:28 PM

True but we need to stop that nonsense through truth one shall succeed not through trickery. Cussing isnt just a bad word in a way it sometimes shares an emotion of anger. It puts an emphasis on it i mean i dont like cussing but people should be able to express them self freely with out a permanent ban. Some people who cuss derserve it but others dont. I hope others could see it this way.
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