[MR Hankey]

Just say "for " in your posts if your for explain why.
Say "against " in your post and explain why your against the ways
Keep insults away
simple debate kaay?

[dead samuri0]

Ummm...what?

[MR Hankey]

Just say why u think dokis values are good or bad
ext his views on clans requirments ext ext.
got it now?

[dead samuri0]

But when you join you know the values are good so whats the point?

This post has been edited by dead samuri0: 09 June 2006 - 05:12 PM

[MR Hankey]

Against.
Uff is about freedom asking a clan to change there requirements is going against freedom.

Another topic.
Doki abusing his powers.
he is very narrow minded in his posts he said clans with requirements are gay clubs where gays are invited i myself am in a 86+ clan this sorta insulted me so i insulted back.
Doki decided to mock me by doing the most im-mature thing and locked the thread.

[dead samuri0]

Yeah

Plus if we tell them to stop no one will listen to us.

But the values itself are good.

This post has been edited by dead samuri0: 09 June 2006 - 05:19 PM

[Fredie21]

lol youre a noob you know this is all inside the clan you better understand things before you talk about it. When he says he fights for freedomm he is saying that all clans shoould alow every one in so its freedo for everyone. Lol he is not abusing his powers he is not making anyone do anything he is just pointing it out. And in a later topic him saying gay means exclusive so you really dont know anything Noob.

you make me laugh every one has ther opinions you dead end noob.

[dead samuri0]

Fredie has a point. It IS our values, even if no one listens to us.

[Fredie21]

NO one has to listen it is opinion we dont like req clans your free not to like us for doing this you have no sense what so ever Hankey so shut your mouth.

[dokimos0rg]

You were not being personally insulted, you only chose it that way, Mr. Hankey. But in response you chose to use insults personally against me and broke SeeDs rules regarding flaming, which SeeD Admins will need to come into investigate.

I removed your post to show everyone that freedom of speech is limited by SeeDs own rules here.

Now you cry on like a baby about it. You post like, "Boo-hoo, bad old doki said restrictive clans or gay. He insults me saying this, so I'm going to disrespect everyone about it." I have one word for you... NOOB.

Your whole purpose here has been to personally smear me in order to break the United Freedom Fighters Movement which has its whole stance in rejection of restrictive clanning. You will find that we are not so easily broken as the movement of UFF does not rest on me alone.

You do not belong in this forum, Mr. Hankey and the same is true of Nate. You have no respect for SeeD nor for its forum.

The stance I take is only what has been the UFF values and stance from the beginning. I am the founder of UFF but I am not alone in this stance.

This is not about "my" values but UFF values which you criticise. This forum is not intended for your vote for or against UFF. You are running an unauthorized poll against a SeeD member which is against SeeD rules also.

You not only insult me, but everyone else in UFF. Thoroughly, you disrespect SeeD to break its rules with knowledge and repeatedly.

Now, that UFF has been assaulted as such, I cannot stop whoever may post in other Runescape clan forums worldwide of our ideology for the freedom of Runescape of which you are, hypocritically, the enemies of.

We are not unwilling to discuss UFF's stance here. It is only we don't need crybaby antics over it. High level players are not always high level behaving.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 09 June 2006 - 05:32 PM

[Fredie21]

Well put doki

[Skyone]

Hmm...what about me? I have no comment on the values because I'm not the one who made the values...D0ki did. D0ki when you said you are what you do. I have done everything there had to be done to be a true leader of UFF. D0ki...you are like a father to me. All I just wanted is to lead by your side as the co-leader and help this clan out. I want everyone in this clan to be better everyday. That's why I work so hard. I could of been the visionary leader of UFF. I have that potential and skill. That is all I want and to be recognized! Thank you.

[dokimos0rg]

Moo, you can do whatever you want in UFF. What do you want to lead? Just do it. Do it by UFF values of course, though. Leadership is not by title, nor by lordship in UFF. Leadership is by-example in UFF. Just keep setting the example.

What? Is it that you want permission to post a title for yourself? Is it you are looking to gain some prominent position? Is it that you want attention for yourself from others? That is the model of restrictive and controlling clans. It is not the model of clanning we have in UFF.

Moo, leadership in UFF is not accomplished by sucking up to other leaders. It is done by setting the example for others by action. I'm not saying you are like this, but others have tried and were quite disappointed with us. Not everyone is a UFF.

If anyone is inquiring why Frylock9 is recognized as UFF Visionary Leader it is because that is what he does. He has 3 notable times stayed loyal to UFF in the midst of contraversies and threatened splits. He has worked ferverently to keep UFF together when it needs it the most.

* * *

Zealous and ferverent work is most commended here in UFF, but as for Visionary Leadership, unlike other forms of leadership in UFF, it requires most firmly holding to the vision and preserving it.

Neils91 as Castle Wars Leader in UFF is really more than that. He has performed more as a UFF Movement Administrator, not a Seed Forum admin, but as a movement admin. He doesn't need the title to be what he is and does. I never really got a "title" for what Neils is for he is a "Neils91", which of itself, makes his own title, for he is what he does.

The traitors to UFF are known only by name, giving their names the bad rep they deserved. Many UFFs know what a "PecsOfSteel" is here, for he is what he did, the little noob he was.

It is not just up to me to do the recognizing in UFF, there is all UFF for that and especially of others who have held firmly to UFF values.

So, Moo, pick up the vision. It is not about grasping titles for oneself but about being a UFF.

Be free and be yourself.

(As for the abusers of this forum, we know what they are too.)

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 09 June 2006 - 05:45 PM

[Fredie21]

ya Moo its your choice i mean yo have to take action to get it but you can do whatever you want thats why i am wilderness team leader.

[MR Hankey]

hmm doki eh boo hoo eh?

Well i have THREE words for you.


YOUR A NOOB!

This post has been edited by MR Hankey: 09 June 2006 - 05:45 PM