[Charlie]

Apparently its pretty simple to hack Invisonfree, and there are thousands of methods of which to do so. I doubt it would be that easy to hack this forum.

[Kimojuno]

Apparently its pretty simple to hack Invisonfree, and there are thousands of methods of which to do so. I doubt it would be that easy to hack this forum.

This is true. I personally know a bunch of them, Invisionfree does not keep their forums that well protected. The problem is also that people add 'mods' (as in modifications) to their administrative sections without knowing what they truly do. HTML can add back doors if you're not careful.

[Nazē.]

*Going to keep this short*

Personally, I'm all for it; yeah, stuff happened, but stuff changes. And it's silly to not keep an open mind. In fact, close-mindedness could -cause- the very things the close-minded people fear, y'know?

[Cspace]

We're all worried about fighting, which is legitimate, but it's in everyone's own power to prevent.

It might be a little bumpy at first because of all the new faces, but what about the longterm? Again, it's in everyone's power to make it work.

We're capable of a lot of things. I'm sure this isn't beyond us.

[Zziggywolf5]

This is a rhetorical question so there should be no "clever" replies to it.

But what tips the scale? I don't see how it's a rhetorical question.

You asked "what is more important: SeeD's well being or an old grudge?" I think that's a rhetorical question since people aren't supposed to answer with "the grudge." Hence the "no clever replies" remark.

I'll try to give the benifit of the doubt to... well, I can't say UFF since I never really disliked them... to this possible merge.

Off-Topic: This topic seems to be helping with activity based on the replies. Perhaps we make topics like this more often.

[Cspace]

You asked "what is more important: SeeD's well being or an old grudge?" I think that's a rhetorical question since people aren't supposed to answer with "the grudge." Hence the "no clever replies" remark.

Oh, my fault, I misunderstood you.

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Controversy for the win!

[The BlackOpps]

go cspace!

[Aaron]

We did it once, and it didn't fail too miserably. For the sake of activity, I think we should try this again.

[Master Of Stuff]

I can't comment much because I wasn't around for the uff times, only the crazy latter end. I could just as easily go through the postlogs, but that takes time.

Honestly: based on the answers i'm curious what would be the result of a vote here- like UFF apparently did to approve of the merge on their end. But again that's just curiosity.

All in all, those who harbor ill-will towards the uff of the past should keep those feelings in the past. Those feelings are justified, but when BlackOpps said that the oldest member is only 10 months old, it should override those feelings. Technically, the 'second chance' is just with the name UFF only. The members joining the SeeD faction are a first-time opportunity and nowhere near a 'second chance'.

I wouldn't mind seeing an increase of activity. THAT really is tempting. And the promise of the proverbial clean-slate of members could be to everyone's benefit.

[Darkness]

and if uff comes to seeD they WONT be called uff anymore. they will go by the name seeD, and they will fight to the death for seeD as well.

'Kay then, I don't have much of a problem with it Just as long as you're not lying.

We did it once, and it didn't fail too miserably.

... I beg to differ.



Anyway, I don't think a vote is really necessary. If, as BlackOpps said in the first quote in this post, they really are dropping the name UFF and going by the name SeeD, then it's the same as if they're just joining us as new members, not really unified in any way except that they know eachother. In fact, there's no reason to even call it a merge. No one's stopping them from joining, and since they are apparently not joining as UFF, there's no reason they can be hindered. While we, the members of CurvedSpace, may have a say in what other clans we merge with, we have no say in who joins these forums. So if we don't call it a merge (which we can't really, unless BlackOpps was OMG LYING []), then there's no reason they can't join.

... I hope that made sense XD

[Kimojuno]

While we, the members of CurvedSpace, may have a say in what other clans we merge with, we have no say in who joins these forums.

Quite correct, and as long as people behave, those evil Super Moderators won't step in.

[Master Of Stuff]

In fact, there's no reason to even call it a merge. No one's stopping them from joining, and since they are apparently not joining as UFF, there's no reason they can be hindered. ... So if we don't call it a merge (which we can't really, unless BlackOpps was OMG LYING [bluetongue.gif]), then there's no reason they can't join.

Wow. Very good point

[Darkness]

While we, the members of CurvedSpace, may have a say in what other clans we merge with, we have no say in who joins these forums.

Quite correct, and as long as people behave, those evil Super Moderators won't step in.

... Most of them, at least...

[Kimojuno]

While we, the members of CurvedSpace, may have a say in what other clans we merge with, we have no say in who joins these forums.

Quite correct, and as long as people behave, those evil Super Moderators won't step in.

... Most of them, at least...

I don't trust that Tanny. We all know he is a S-Mod in disguise.

[Darkness]

While we, the members of CurvedSpace, may have a say in what other clans we merge with, we have no say in who joins these forums.

Quite correct, and as long as people behave, those evil Super Moderators won't step in.

... Most of them, at least...

I don't trust that Tanny. We all know he is a S-Mod in disguise.

Oh, no doubt. One time I took over Cspace's body and checked the Mod Logs in the administration panel, and there were literally -hundreds- of entries of some mod abusing his powers getting up to all sorts of mischief, and they were all labeled 'Tanny', 'Tanny', 'Tanny', 'Tanny', and all of them were...

... Wait... I probably shouldn't be disclosing this HIGHLY CLASSIFIED information to all these people lacking security clearance...