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#1 {lang:macro__useroffline}   Star Jedi {lang:icon}

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Posted 13 October 2003 - 09:13 PM

Well, in Chem H we all voted to learn about electrons and their configurations, thinking it would be easy (We can vote on what we would like to learn). Well, it's not.

If anyone knows about this, then they would probably know what this means...

1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 . . .

The first number meaning what Energy level, the letter meaning what orbital (s,p,d,f), and the third number meaning how many electrons. I've gotten quite confused with some of this.

1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6 4s2 <---- What comes after this?! That's my question, and what i'm confused on... Does it go 4d10 4p6? I'm so confused conf.gif
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Posted 14 October 2003 - 03:49 AM

[Short answer:]

Here is the sequential order of filling for orbitals for all electron shells we currently have expirimental evidence of:

1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6 4s2 3d10 4p6 5s2 4d10 5p6 6s2 4f14 5d10 6p6 7s2 5f14 6d10 7p6

Just read from left to right; as each orbital is filled, move to the next on the list.


I remembered a neat little java application that I used to teach my brother about this stuff a few years ago. I looked around a bit and found it:

W. Bauer's Electon Filling Applet

Just drag your mouse on the bottom bar to see the order in which electrons are filled.

[Long Answer:]

I had the long answer halfway typed before I realized that you probably didn't want all the information I was putting down. If you just needed a quick answer as to the orbital filling order, the above should be sufficient. If you'd like to know more of the general aspects of electron orbitals and configuration let me know; I'll be happy to tell you what I can.

Hope this helps,

--Rabk


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Posted 14 October 2003 - 03:59 AM

I see. I clicked on the Website you provided, and started using it. But still, when I got to 4s2 and clicked up on my arrow key, it when back down to the 3rd energy level.

So, like... As an example, I'm using the Element Fe(Iron - Atomic #26). Would the Configuration be

1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6 4s2 then 3d6? Or would it be 4d6... *Gag*
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Posted 14 October 2003 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (Star Jedi @ Oct 14 2003, 03:59 AM)
when I got to 4s2 and clicked up on my arrow key, it when back down to the 3rd energy level.


That's right-- because of the way that energy is distributed within the orbitals, there isn't a constant progression of orbital filling. The pattern seems random, but there is an underlying order to it.

The principle quantum number (the first number you read) tells what shell the orbital lies in, i.e., how far away from the nucleus it is. In general, the larger the number, the more energy in the shell.

Each shell, however, contains several different orbitals. The energy of a given orbital depends on its shape. There are four different orbital shapes. The s orbital is simply a sphere. This is the lowest energy state for any given shell. The p orbitals are shaped somewhat like 3 barbells at right angles to each other and are more energetic than the s orbital of the same shell.

Next comes the d orbital. This is where things start to get intersesting. Beginning with orbital 3d, the d orbitals have so much energy inherent in their shape that they actualy have more energy than the lowest orbital of the shell above them. An atom always tries to be in the lowest possible energy state, so once its 3p orbital is full, it opts to begin filling the 4s orbital instead of moving on to the more energetic 3d configuration. A similar thing happens after the 5s orbital is filled, where, because of the need for a lower energy state, the atom moves to the 4d instead of the 5p orbital you would expect.

These energy discrepancies between shells become more and more pronounced as you move up the list of elements, as can be seen in the list I posted above.

The d and f orbitals have very complex shapes, and are best seen in graphical form.


I hope this helps,

--Rabk

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Post icon  Posted 15 October 2003 - 11:40 PM

Thankyou Rabk, So much! I finally learned this, and made up my own little thing.

d = Down 1
f = fall back 2 biglaugh.gif

Now I can do the highest elements configuration! YEa!

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