[dark demon]

i sometimes hate jagex,bcz they dont judge good,my other account was banned bcz i said looser a couple of time to someone.
sometimes people lie to get us banned like one time i sold r2h fr 60k to a lvl 49, nd he told everyone that i scamed him nd i put iron 2h (which i didnt)... good thing i had a screenshot of our trade.

[Fredie21]

yea i know we need to take this to jagex i mean people lie i cant believe they believe some of these people.

[Neilslayer91]

Dude they wont except people's lies unless they got proof.

[Chaz P K]

Yes Neils your right. they did do that to WOZ and since i split the merger between DOR and WOZ we have suddenly become enemys. rudeboy i dont giv a {expletive ninja'd by Cspace} about wat u say u imbred evil sheep shagger. ya mum is a man. see the reason u wer born is cos they went off and had testube babys to have you. so dont you dare say {expletive hax0rd by Cspace} about me you lil {expletive ninja'd by Cspace}ing chemical baby.

i have had 9 lvl 90s leave WOZ since the merge with DOr cos they think DOR is just crap and shows of a lot. your scared to add all your members to the high scores cos u want a high AVG. that isnt what a clan is about. a clan is about people who stick together and fight alongside each other. if im not a good leader then your just crap. you openly offended me at PK trips. well guess what, at the cancelled war agenst MOC i stayed there. i had to go too but i stayed on. you left us and i died for nothing. DOR is crap and the best person in there is Neils91. even mystry may be joining Phobia and Fear after 3 weeks if hes 98 combat.

this aint PB scamming, im telling the truth. Rudeboy thinks hes good. im having a hard time bringing WOZ back becos most of the members have gone to other clans. wat a waste of time DOR was.

[dokimos0rg]

What is the core objection to unity? Is it over power? If players are seeking to have power for themselves over a clan, guess what? They are NOT UFFs! Lordship is not what a UFF leader demonstrates.

Sometimes unity might not be possible because of the departing from UFF values by another. This is sad but it becomes necessary.

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With all the attempts to recruit high level characters from one clan to another going all over Runescape, how is a clan to keep cohesion of a united team? It takes establishing a clan in values and emphasizing the necessity to cherish and fight for them. For United Freedom Fighters, we fight and defend Runescape freedom.

Those who seek to recruit high level players, such as 90s or whatever level, generally do so to seek power for themselves only. There is something more important than the clan, it is the cause for which the clan stands. Most Runescape clans are empty in true values, worthless in cause, and limited in vision. We are different as we place our values foremost.

If a player is a UFF he will join with us and stay. If he doesn't join or doesn't stay in UFF, then he really isn't a UFF and we do not stand loss. UFF is and must be those who value the UFF Movement. Granted, we will lose a few along the way, but this does not mean we lose.

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Chaz P K has the rightful concern about building the wilderness teams as we all do. But this is not about which UFF allied clan can grab for itself the biggest team. There is a higher principle involved here, which to this time now, many still seem not to understand. Let us not become dull of hearing.

Wherever players learned this idea of grabbing for themselves as leaders to be over others, I don't know. To do that instead of serving to help the many by valuing the clanmembers rather than merely themselves is not UFF and they didn't learn that from the example I set.

Consider the reproducible values and methods of the UFF!

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What I say here is about the underlying foundation upon which building teams should be developed. Clans fall apart for lack of cohesive, honored and defended values or for lack of the right values.

Players need to value simply more than their individual selves to make a clan strong, therefore, emphasize the values of United Freedom Fighters.

Fight strong. Fight united. Fight free.

Be free.

Oh yes and be yourselves, too.

This post has been edited by dokimos0rg: 06 June 2006 - 11:43 PM

[Nate]

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[Asadorn]

Nate, I don't know where that came from, and I don't know if you were mocking us or not. The UFF is against overlords, we don't necesarily want to kill them, but make people realize the wrong they do and take away all their support and unite everyone. Make them free. If you are mocking us i'm not sure why...

[Nate]

Yeah Shan and Hobba are the complete opposite from Over lords (GoH leaders) :\ And Im no where near a slave, so i dont know where THAT came from.

[Asadorn]

Yeah Shan and Hobba are the complete opposite from Over lords (GoH leaders) :\ And Im no where near a slave, so i dont know where THAT came from.

By "that" I meant your post that repeated "UFF letz kill the overlords roflmaoLOL!" a lot.

[Nate]

You know very damn well where that came from *Points finger to Dokimos*

[Asadorn]

You know very damn well where that came from *Points finger to Dokimos*

Doki never said that, that is what you interpreted what he said and I don't think your interpretation is correct.

[Nate]

Overlording is not the model of leadership in United Freedom Fighters Movement. Resist it! Fight against it! We in UFF believe in "by-example" leadership. You are what you do.


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"I must have my precious!", says the overlording clanleader.

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Thats extreme demoting of REQ clans, and what is "Fight against it" suppose to mean hmm?

This post has been edited by Nate: 07 June 2006 - 12:40 AM

[Asadorn]

we don't necesarily want to kill them, but make people realize the wrong they do and take away all their support and unite everyone. Make them free.

Whats a better way to fight it?

[Nate]

The better way to fight it, is to shut up and leave clans the way they want to be wether you guys approve of it or not.

[Asadorn]

The better way to fight it, is to shut up and leave clans the way they want to be wether you guys approve of it or not.

If you don't like what we believe, and refuse to approve what we strive to accomplish why don't you take your own advice.