[Skyone]

^Hehe, I love that...

[Chaz P K]

LOL!

[Sexile]

UFF is pointless (h)

[Chaz P K]

everyone nerly hates uff lol....

[Nate]

http://z7.invisionfr...isgay/index.php? LOL new clan join plx

[Chaz P K]

nty, just join wacky ownage. we hate uff lol

[Skyone]

Well we want to join the UFF haters club...come on Chaz you know you want to!

Hehe...I just joined!

This post has been edited by Moo™: 14 June 2006 - 06:43 PM

[Red Sentinel]

OKAY, I've had it! If you morons think it's funny to flame someone because they're not as perfect as you, forget it!

Come on then, If you need someone to flame, Go on the SeeD chat to "#Fersken"

[Fredie21]

Thank you fersken i feel i have no support for this

[dokimos0rg]

UFF members have been *very* willing to end hostility between them and SeeD. I don't see why some won't give them a chance and leave them be. It seems that every discussion in this forum is interrupted by "UFF is worthless" and comments such as that.

Hi Star Jedi,

I appreciate very much your support and advocacy for UFF in SeeD. If I may just clarify something, UFF is not hostile with SeeD. We are SeeDs and neither our struggle or disagreement is with SeeD.

Yes, we are willing to end the hostilities, of course. But please remember that we didn't start being hostile to SeeDs. Neither are we maintaining hostilities. We have only been defending our own values and cause which we were received into SeeD as. What we are in rejection of is overlording and restrictive clanning for which we are being persecuted.

There are those in SeeD, even in respected places, who are representing views to be in favor of their own clan outside of SeeD which is their first loyalty. SeeD needs to have better representation of its own values by those who are held to be those as to represent this clan. So, SeeD is being betrayed by its own, not by the UFFs within Seed. If UFFs were disloyal, they would not be recognized as being UFF.

* * *

SeeD does believe in receiving all levels of players and UFF is being disrepected over this. UFF accepts that members of SeeD may multiclan. UFF only sees it discouragable to promote exclusive clanning.

Seeing as PK vs. Anti-PK political views exist within SeeD I do not think it strange or Anti-SeeD that we have our political viewpoint. I believe you, Star Jedi, agree with this and so does Cspace.

* * *

If I am the political zealot that is such an apparent strange fanatic that I am made out to be by my critics, then why are they such fanatics to post so vehemetly contrary politics? They do so even with the worst of personal flames.

From the perspective of UFF, we are the loyal in SeeD. It appears that others in SeeD are more loyal to some other clan outside that think themselves better than others and of SeeD. What? Are we UFFs to apologize for standing with SeeD? Our disagreement may have been with some SeeD members but it has not truly in fact been with SeeD itself.

* * *

Does anyone feel jealous enough or zealous enough for SeeD itself to defend its own values and reputation? When UFF joined SeeD, many SeeD members were saying what a great clan SeeD USED TO BE and even cut SeeD down.

Many SeeDs felt and feel it would be great to bring SeeD back to its former glory. I wholeheartedly agree. In order to do this SeeD will need a strengthening of its own value system and emphasize it. This will help bring loyal SeeDs of different viewpoints together and weed out those, who are in fact, disloyal to SeeD.

UFF has done a great amount of building up of the SeeD Clan. If we are to be rejected as low-level noobs here, then SeeD should have chosen to be a restrictive clan. Howbeit, this is not what SeeD is now, is it?

We UFFs represent SeeD and accept its plurality. If we didn't, we wouldn't be here. It is only that if a player joins an exclusive clan, we can recognize them as a fellow SeeD in respect, but we cannot recognize them as UFF.


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Consequentially, Chaz P K's accusations of me are false. He himself has proven what I have said regarding him. He is not a UFF and does not reflect our values. His abuses of the SeeD Forum are not condoned by us.

[tom/halo/emily]

Dokimos when he relizes noone gives a crap about his gay movement.

id rather be in a gay movement than a homophobic 1 and id rather be in a small clan than a big 1 ill stay in uff till im the last 1 left and even then i wont leave.

so flame me if thats all you can do

eeh bite me

[Baseballl]

In order for SeeD to be where it used to be you need to be where you used to be, not here.

[Skyone]

^I'm with Base^ Go back where you came from UFF!

[Fredie21]

Moo you think your so big just because of your runescape player you understand nothing about are old clan nothing Miami Man nothing against you because i dont know you.

[tom/halo/emily]

id happily leave you squabbiling 6 year olds to your flameing and go back to our old forum and site but i dont choose what to do the whole clan does

p.s you wont make anything happen if you just say go back where you came from or uff is lame or iam a uff hater.

im a uff and there is nuthing you can do about it except flame and say im gay if thats it you need to go back to shcool

all hail king of the looserz