[Cspace]

I may be mistaken, I guess I'm just confused.

What exactly is UFF's goal, and what is the plan to achieve it? It's probably best to be on the same page with this.

[Neilslayer91]

We strive to stop requirement clans and overlords.

[Nate]

Honestly guys, give me one overlord. I have yet to meet one man or woman who fits your description.

[Skyone]

Neils, enough with the spamming will you? Everytime I go to home...I see you post 2 seconds later. I see pointless comments of you spamming on almost every topic.

[Neilslayer91]

Some leaders of requirement clans are overlords. I'm not saying all, I'm saying some of them are.

[Nate]

No don't just say some are, i want too see a whole clan who fits the description for my self.

This post has been edited by Nate: 15 June 2006 - 06:30 PM

[Chaz P K]

omg...neils ur a mini-dokimos. please hold wit the preaching. or r u the spamming dokimos? 2 sides to every story muhahahahaha

[Baseballl]

Stop listening to the mavericks, as Cspace put it, and listen to what I'm trying to say. I'll put it in red and maybe that will help.

We don't want you to drop your goals. We want you to stop bashing exclusive clans. They have every right to be here like you do, but you don't need to insult them constantly because they don't agree with you. That is just childish. We don't want you to change, we just want you to stop with the exclusive clan bashing. It is pointless and doesn't benefit anyone. You aren't going to stop that type of clanning. Like I said, some people enjoy clans like SeeD and UFF, and others enjoy exclusive clans.

[Cspace]

How exactly do you plan to stop Overlords?

(and for those who can't discuss things respectfully, including Moo, who I thought was sincere in his suspension appeal yesterday...

LEAVE THIS THREAD if you can't discuss things respectfully!

thank you)

[Neilslayer91]

Dude I'm not spamming, I was replying to Cspace's question ffs.
And i was gone for 5 days and theres like 3 pages more.

[Chaz P K]

ye this is getting serious, thers mods and cspace all over this place...

[Cspace]

Heh, from my perspective, only Neils and Miami Man are actually talking about ideas in recent replies. The rest are the common few who are taking another opportunity to repeat their argument as well. They are arguably doing exactly what they are complaining about from the other direction. I still can't understand why they don't see that, and I ask UFF to simply not take the mavericks seriously... Just put them on "ignore" in your control panel if you feel like it. All they do is repeat the same side and haven't contributed anything to this, so it can probably be safely done. Since I can count them on one hand, they shouldn't be hard to ignore, unless they actually decide to contribute something someday.

As for Miami Man and me, we are on your side, but we are taking experiences from SeeD and trying to help you achieve your goal, since we don't really see how it's possible otherwise based on the way things have been conducted. We're just trying to help, and I wish others wouldn't take it as an opportunity for taking shots at Dokimos like they have. It is completely against the purpose of this thread.

[Baseballl]

Indeed, and I apologize if I'm coming across angry, I'm just upset that certain members of UFF aren't understanding that this situation, believe it or not, relates to many past experiences in SeeD. When taking a stance against one group, in this case exclusive clanning, you are going to get negative feedback coming your direction. If it was toned down and not mentioned in the open so much (inserted in the rules/values instead), then you might not be facing the problems you are facing now.

[Neilslayer91]

I have nothing against Miami Man or anyone else of SeeD.
I just wish we could get along but it's extremly difficult.

[Bodom]

Dokimos, you dont seem to understand, people arent getting mad at the UFF and fearing the UFF, they dont even care if you try change it, its the fact you insult around 95% of runescape because you dont like something, i seriously think if this clan wasnt about 10 members then maybe it would be better lol.

It is possible to give people freedom without bashing 95% of the game who ARENT going to drop highly successful clans to join yours and im now about level 52 in like four days so training cant be so difficult can it? If a low level feels disrespected why do these low levels go on to enter such "slavery overlording" clans?

Seriously if anyone could join any clan just because its fairer, there would be no clan pride, no self pride, no happiness and joy from being able to make it. I was one of the few who managed to make it into Damage Inc and im proud i done so and glad i could level up and do it and i know plenty more the same, if however i could just waltz in and join then sorry but i wouldnt even be playing the game.

I also love how Asadorn says UFF arent trying to take out overlord clans then Neils posts that bull{expletive hax0rd by Cspace} about stopping requirement clans lol.

So why do people join and choose to be "overlorded" if its terrible?

This post has been edited by Echliurn: 15 June 2006 - 06:53 PM