[Xemem]

I know one thing....going to guys for info on girls is not the best idea. girls no more about their own gender then we do, because well... it is their gender lol. the place to get info is from a woman not a man. All a guys advice on this can do is voice all the different thoughts you have had (fleeting or sticking).

Talk to a woman and you will get ideas that would never think of just because we are guys and are not hard wired that way. If you talk to a woman about this (notice that I have been saying woman and not girl), you will be getting an opinion that comes from the perspective of what a woman would want you do, and to use this phrase slightly out of context..."happy wife, happy life".

One example of where women have helped me is my mother. She has given me two great pieces of advice which are

#1. Never out do your self - which means don't take her to a movie a dinner and bring her flowers and candy....it should go more like this, a movie, a restaurant, a movie and a restaurant, a movie a restaurant and flowers, a movie a restaurant flowers and chocolates.... basically never make so that you have no where new to go with things.

#2. know when she is angry or annoyed- when a woman is sitting and getting angry she will almost always kick her leg. it can start with an impatient toe tapping and move all the way up to her half-standing up, as if she is about to just walk away but still wants to sit to see if she can guess which foot is going in the mouth next and how far(like repositioning her rested position every two seconds)....if a woman is annoyed or thinking about the last thing you did wrong she will often bite her lower lip (no...not draw blood lol... just enough to make a sort of ...holding in mild anger face).

I have kept several woman friends and companions from 'making me pay' keeping those things in mind.


all that said...most of my advice is paradoxical. but take it any way lol.

[Mobster101]

Catch me if you can!

Yeah, he should understand if he's seen that movie, too.

Yeah, to whoever said it..I would go after #1 but theres absofrickenlutely no attraction...****in' trust me...I tried...

But, heres a peice of info I forgot...

I was talking to #1, because #2 was pissed off at #1, then out of no where she starts talking about "yeah..i'm single..no worries about guys here...yep.."
Is that a hint I should be looking for?

Btw..by the end of the week..I had girl #1 on her knees...hehehe....painting..

^^was that a cheap joke?^^

[Xemem]

not a hint... a neon sign.

she may not be letting you know that she is avialable to you specifically...just that she is avialable. weather it is to you or not depends on what you want to do about it... If you are going to try for her or not. she may also be testing the waters, seing what happens when she puts the ball in your court... I think women like having....options as much as men.


oh and that whole *puase* a quick agreeance with her self and what she just said and then another *puase*....that is not just taking breaths.... those little puases are the ones your supposed to act on if your going to.... not is good way to push your self out as a prospect.

[Bespetna]

*calles upon an emo alert for mike*

PS: maybe you should go for the grandma and work your way up .

[Darkness]

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BTw, besp....grow up...if you date for sex then...

I suggest if people insist on posting here, post things that are actually helpful to his situation.

Do the right thing, Mobster.

And that was really helpful, huh?

Yeah, to whoever said it..I would go after #1 but theres absofrickenlutely no attraction...****in' trust me...I tried...

Then why was #1 even made a number if she isn't even an option?

[Xemem]

all valid points.... but it sounds like he is more confused then he thinks he is about it.... and another thing is that you may get some good advice here or you may not... but your the closest one to the situation and those around you in your everyday life next. might not seem like a great idea...but its worth asking your parents about. they know whats going on believe me. any one who thinks that the way they are is unique or that they have been through things that no body else can quite get...they need to be hit by the bus rather then ride it hehe.

nothing new under the sun dude. when ever you can learn from some one elses mistakes so ya' don't have ta' make em' your self lol. sometimes you get useful but stupid advice as well... my dad tuaght me this for instance: " If your going to wright your name in the snow....don't try to letter box it. broke a blood vessle that way once".

So what is it you are trying to figiure out exactly? what not to do wrong? how to keep them both as friends? which one you should go for? do you already know what you want....but you want it to be validated?

If you know what you want and not how to get it... welll that is alot easier to help with rather then at the same time, trying to help ya' figiure what it is you want as well.

[rudeboy2k5]

Do boxing. Beat her boyfriend up. That might work
Just tell the no.2 you like her. Dont be afraid. Get in there!

[Nazē.]

Do boxing. Beat her boyfriend up. That might work

...

If you aren't joking, you need help. >.< If you were joking, however, ignore this.

[Res]

I suggest if people insist on posting here, post things that are actually helpful to his situation.

Do the right thing, Mobster.

And that was really helpful, huh?

No I suppose not. By that I mean I know Mobster has a decent idea about what is the right thing. Which is what's best for everybody, and not just himself.

I know he'll figure out alternatives on his own, and when he gets there, to do the right one.

[Nuu™™]

Choose the one which has the most money.


Or chocolate.

[Res]

Who am I kidding.. Let's just wait 'till Valerie sees this topic. She should have a few good words of advice for you.

[Mobster101]

all valid points.... but it sounds like he is more confused then he thinks he is about it.... and another thing is that you may get some good advice here or you may not... but your the closest one to the situation and those around you in your everyday life next. might not seem like a great idea...but its worth asking your parents about. they know whats going on believe me. any one who thinks that the way they are is unique or that they have been through things that no body else can quite get...they need to be hit by the bus rather then ride it hehe.

nothing new under the sun dude. when ever you can learn from some one elses mistakes so ya' don't have ta' make em' your self lol. sometimes you get useful but stupid advice as well... my dad tuaght me this for instance: " If your going to wright your name in the snow....don't try to letter box it. broke a blood vessle that way once".

So what is it you are trying to figiure out exactly? what not to do wrong? how to keep them both as friends? which one you should go for? do you already know what you want....but you want it to be validated?

If you know what you want and not how to get it... welll that is alot easier to help with rather then at the same time, trying to help ya' figiure what it is you want as well.

That confused the living {expletive hax0rd by Cspace} out of me...

Do boxing. Beat her boyfriend up. That might work
Just tell the no.2 you like her. Dont be afraid.    Get in there!

Shut up... (he saying jokingly..don't get on my case {expletive hax0rd by Cspace}!)


Heres the dealeo...
I'm playing the drums for my youth group..#2's brother is going to play guitar while I play the drums this sunday night...so I invited #2 to come listen to us practise so that I could have someone telll me how i'm doing (she's kinda a no bull{expletive hax0rd by Cspace} type of girl). I just invited her..right? then she sends me an e-mail back saying she'd invite #1...seems everything me and #2 do...she wants #1 to be there...heres what i'm thinking...
#1 likes me, she tells #2..now #2 is such a good friend she tries to give #1 every chance she can to hang out with me....am I right here?

This post has been edited by Mobster101: 27 April 2006 - 04:43 PM

[Res]

I'm playing the drums for my youth group..#2's brother is going to play guitar while I play the drums this sunday night...so I invited #2 to come listen to us practise so that I could have someone telll me how i'm doing (she's kinda a no bull{expletive hax0rd by Cspace} type of girl). I just invited her..right? then she sends me an e-mail back saying she'd invite #1...seems everything me and #2 do...she wants #1 to be there...heres what i'm thinking...
#1 likes me, she tells #2..now #2 is such a good friend she tries to give #1 every chance she can to hang out with me....am I right here?

Valerie is out of town. My call.

Does this happen every incident that you try to do something with #2? If so, she's trying to set you up. Either that, or her parents don't want her to date. Remember that factor.

Also, #2 might not want to go with you alone. Not to be mean, but it's another factor to put in. She might not want to go anywhere with another guy as it might feel too "Date"ey.

[Mobster101]

Well first off.. #2 is the one with the bf...so she can date...
And secoundly...we wouldn't be alone...it would be me, her, a guy named nathan, and #2's brother....

Does this happen every incident that you try to do something with #2? If so, she's trying to set you up.

Pretty much...lemme think..
Went to get T-shirt..she invited #1..
Eating on trip, #1 always sat with us..(not so weird considering we're all friends)
and now playing drums..she invites #1...


Holy crap....maybe #1 does like me....ohh $#!%....

[Xemem]

what I was saying(though I will now simplify it), is...do you know what you want? or are you trying to figure it out?

and in either case you are not the first one to go through a situation like this.


now, it could also be that they have set you up to be with one of them. I am almost convinced through my own experiences that women plan these things out months ahead of time lol...I think they mark out who should be with who long before we take notice of the first one.