Pking Monkey, there is no real proof I'm aware of that there was ever water there. It appears there were 'rivers' there, but that doesn't actually mean water. An interesting fact is when they first saw them, they called them 'Canals'. A Canal is artificial, not natural. That acutally started up a lot of the rumours about Martians, simply the fact that they were badly named.
My uncle is a mathematician, and he did some work on calculating the probability of intelligent life. Basically it boils down to this... It's highly likely there is intelligent life out there, but the chances of it being near enough for us to detect are tiny. Therefore until we get a lot lot lot more advanced, the chances of even detecting other races is very slim. Even when we do find them, chances are Sci-Fi stories won't be true, that we won't be able to travel faster than light.
Life On Mars Do you think there was life on Mars?
#18
Posted 16 January 2004 - 06:19 AM
Well I don't think that there ever was life on mars...maybe some single celled organisms or something. I do believe that humans could some day live on mars. The main problem right now is the lack of water, the small atmosphere and the atmosphere is made up of 95% carbon dioxide (this can be easily fixed though). I do believe that there is intelligent life elsewhere on many other planets in the universe. Just my two cents
#21
Posted 11 December 2004 - 06:58 AM
um...well there are a few problemes and things that havnt been considerd here...
any life we may find may have been accedently brought by us, as we can only greatly reduce the number of microbial life we send there with our missions and not irradicate it all together.
while the peramiters that life can be extant and even thrive within are well established and go way beyond what we have previously thought. I feel the conditions under wich life (as we know it), can arrive on the scene are some what less defined.
and has any one heard of quorum sencing. it is a process by wich cell to cell comunication is achieved by chemical, and not electrical signals. wich raises into contraversy the idea that single celled orginisms cannot have a form of intellegence. and that plants do not have a central nervous sytem...
so basicaly alien intellegence can come in the form of trillions of cells acting as neurons, and together creating a single mind, or hive mentality. all living of the substance of a single rock, and reorginising its infro-struture to create a body(life and intellegent life is not bound by the common narrow views of human society, rather apon new discoveries we are constantly being suprised by lifes, endurance factor, and reshaping our own views).
this is of course an extreem. However nature is seperate from nuture, yet influenced by it. Meaning that when conditions change life changes, and can survive on levels we have yet to fully comprehend and are only scracthing the surface of recording.
water on mars, is suggested! we have no definates one way or the other...
oh and the caculations for the probability of life...it is called "The drakes equation".
we have touched our sister, mars...but in terms of exploration we have not even taken two steps in a million.
as for our sun imploding exploding ect... well for one thing it is as has been said billions of years away. secondly it will expand to a red giant as it struggles for fuel (the corona will eventualy not only make life extinct on earth, but will also consume the inner planets through its slow expanstion). it will then implode when it can grasp for life no longer and fall in on itself...it will not go supernove though as was said earlier... it will do something. most likely a white dwarfe. after that, there will prolly be no black hole in my opinion. But space may be warped for a few billion more years before disapating.
to summerise. In comparsion to many stars, ours will have a relatively peacfull death.
however between our suns explotion(or rather slow expantion) and its implotion, the outer planets may get a chance at being in "the safe zone"... it may be possible, and in my opinionj is highly probable that all our planets that are now completly in hospitable like venus, and mercury, had there chance at life, and that the other planets chance for life comming up. In my opinion this is a natural way of things(that every planet in a solar sytem gets a chance to produce life). and that the strongest of these produce life like ours. I think for every success there are to many failures. but the grandure of one out shines the short commings of the rest.
any life we may find may have been accedently brought by us, as we can only greatly reduce the number of microbial life we send there with our missions and not irradicate it all together.
while the peramiters that life can be extant and even thrive within are well established and go way beyond what we have previously thought. I feel the conditions under wich life (as we know it), can arrive on the scene are some what less defined.
and has any one heard of quorum sencing. it is a process by wich cell to cell comunication is achieved by chemical, and not electrical signals. wich raises into contraversy the idea that single celled orginisms cannot have a form of intellegence. and that plants do not have a central nervous sytem...
so basicaly alien intellegence can come in the form of trillions of cells acting as neurons, and together creating a single mind, or hive mentality. all living of the substance of a single rock, and reorginising its infro-struture to create a body(life and intellegent life is not bound by the common narrow views of human society, rather apon new discoveries we are constantly being suprised by lifes, endurance factor, and reshaping our own views).
this is of course an extreem. However nature is seperate from nuture, yet influenced by it. Meaning that when conditions change life changes, and can survive on levels we have yet to fully comprehend and are only scracthing the surface of recording.
water on mars, is suggested! we have no definates one way or the other...
oh and the caculations for the probability of life...it is called "The drakes equation".
we have touched our sister, mars...but in terms of exploration we have not even taken two steps in a million.
as for our sun imploding exploding ect... well for one thing it is as has been said billions of years away. secondly it will expand to a red giant as it struggles for fuel (the corona will eventualy not only make life extinct on earth, but will also consume the inner planets through its slow expanstion). it will then implode when it can grasp for life no longer and fall in on itself...it will not go supernove though as was said earlier... it will do something. most likely a white dwarfe. after that, there will prolly be no black hole in my opinion. But space may be warped for a few billion more years before disapating.
to summerise. In comparsion to many stars, ours will have a relatively peacfull death.
however between our suns explotion(or rather slow expantion) and its implotion, the outer planets may get a chance at being in "the safe zone"... it may be possible, and in my opinionj is highly probable that all our planets that are now completly in hospitable like venus, and mercury, had there chance at life, and that the other planets chance for life comming up. In my opinion this is a natural way of things(that every planet in a solar sytem gets a chance to produce life). and that the strongest of these produce life like ours. I think for every success there are to many failures. but the grandure of one out shines the short commings of the rest.

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#22
Posted 07 July 2005 - 05:28 AM
The modern theory is that there is life below the surface because of methane and other life-produced substances being detected. Don't get excited though, it is most likely very primitive life (like bacteria)
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SKoA - http://skoa.cspacezone.com/ , if you have any Age of Empires games.
The DS Garden Festival Minigame - Link , whether you play DStorm or not.
The Most Mysterious SSSS - Link For people who don't care about...things.
Like LEGO? Play Blockland!
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