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Wait... Isn't a vacum the complete absence of matter in a space? If you put hydrogen into something, it's full.
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 10:31 PM
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 10:59 PM
No.. in my theory, replace hydrogen with the Vacuum.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 12:57 AM
The only reason we use gas is because the enormous inward pull of a vacuum. If there is a way to make a lightweight, rigid hull, then a vacuum blimp would be possible. Helium blimps, thought, are still very useful. They require little energy to run, are extremely safe, and can hover in the same spot.
A common misconception about helium blimps is that if the get a hole in them, they'll pop. The fact is, the helium is at such a low pressure, it takes a long time for it leak out of the blimp. Rather than getting shot out of the sky, a blimp will just slowly lose air and float down, safely. It would take a massive tear to bring a modern helium blimp crashing down.
A common misconception about helium blimps is that if the get a hole in them, they'll pop. The fact is, the helium is at such a low pressure, it takes a long time for it leak out of the blimp. Rather than getting shot out of the sky, a blimp will just slowly lose air and float down, safely. It would take a massive tear to bring a modern helium blimp crashing down.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 02:14 AM
QUOTE(Neraphym @ Jun 3 2006, 10:57 AM) 
The only reason we use gas is because the enormous inward pull of a vacuum. If there is a way to make a lightweight, rigid hull, then a vacuum blimp would be possible. Helium blimps, thought, are still very useful. They require little energy to run, are extremely safe, and can hover in the same spot.
A common misconception about helium blimps is that if the get a hole in them, they'll pop. The fact is, the helium is at such a low pressure, it takes a long time for it leak out of the blimp. Rather than getting shot out of the sky, a blimp will just slowly lose air and float down, safely. It would take a massive tear to bring a modern helium blimp crashing down.
But if blimps are safe, why arn't they used in mainstream society? The only thing aerostats are used for nowadays is advertising and 'toys'. They would be great for tourism, think of how many people would just love to go on a slow, steady, flying adventure, in complete luxury. They would be great for transport as well, even if they are not very fast, they can move across land and sea, and can be built to larger sizes than aerodynes. So why don't people use them?
Also, I have a found wikipedia section on vacuum aerostats:
QUOTE(Wikipedia)
Low pressure buoyancy
The average density of an aircraft can be reduced, at least in principle, by creating a partial vacuum. The concept of an airship supported by the buoyancy of a vacuum has been explored in science fiction. The envelope must be strong enough to resist crushing by external atmospheric pressure and light enough to be lighter than air. No such device has ever been constructed.
The average density of an aircraft can be reduced, at least in principle, by creating a partial vacuum. The concept of an airship supported by the buoyancy of a vacuum has been explored in science fiction. The envelope must be strong enough to resist crushing by external atmospheric pressure and light enough to be lighter than air. No such device has ever been constructed.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 03:04 AM
Blimps are frickin huge... it takes a big hangar to store them. And would you go on a blimp after the hindenberger disaster? That really killed blimps in the eyes of the public.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 03:39 AM
QUOTE(Neraphym @ Jun 3 2006, 01:04 PM)
Blimps are frickin huge... it takes a big hangar to store them. And would you go on a blimp after the hindenberger disaster? That really killed blimps in the eyes of the public.
No, just hydrogen blimps. Disasters such as that can be resolved by using helium instead. And do you really need a hangar? Can't you just moor them?
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SKoA - http://skoa.cspacezone.com/ , if you have any Age of Empires games.
The DS Garden Festival Minigame - Link , whether you play DStorm or not.
The Most Mysterious SSSS - Link For people who don't care about...things.
Like LEGO? Play Blockland!
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 12:55 PM
Yes, but the fears are still there. I know some people that swore never to go on a boat after watching titanic. Fear is a powerful thing...
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 04:12 AM
I guess you wouldn't really want to moor them outside permanently, they'd wear out considerably more quickly and force you to make more repairs.
And Alpha is right, fear is often not rational in any way.
And Alpha is right, fear is often not rational in any way.